4.1 kg / 9.0 lbs
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🐢 man & myself ride and own 17m & 19m He's on Edge & I'm on Riot XR 17m has much less power than a 19m !! We go back and forth between the two and we know People who do not ride/ own both those sizes cannot know the difference that exists.. it's significant !!! Don't care what brand of 17m is out th...

@ grigorib

Have you ever had someone ( unknown kiter ) walk to you and offer to launch you ?

If you say I'm good thank you for offering... they get kind of upset and say : you know when someone offers to launch you ...you should accept and not turn it down

Your thoughts ?

When I carry my kite in that much of a wind I don't only use the palm of one hand

I use my forearm locked in between canopy and LE plus I press the LE tight against my body using my arm

My kite is not going anywhere even if LE is slippery

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Looked up the wind speed archive yesterday morning Around the time of the accident St-Petersburg airport 10:53 am it reads : 23 mph gusts to 44 mph !! He lost control He was not a local kiter Got to close to pier then no buffer zone & slam Very sorry to hear about his kitemare Hope he recovers from ...

I see him starting to try and change direction close to pier When the kite gets overhead a strong gust boosts him up He slams in pier with the side-on wind direction I do not believe it was a jump attempt The news showed Florida's West coast had unsettled stormy weather on Friday You can see the win...

Double blind study :

Riding and landing blind

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17m kites are so Deja vu
We need to see some New vu !!

Looks like we are looking for a BIG 20 or 21m that's stays flying in less wind but that don't require working it

If you're working it you don't have enough power IMO

A well designed BIG LEI is what we need
Not tiny 17m that needs to be worked

My 2 cents again
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I would be interested on thoughts here.... The new Ozone Zephyr Ultra X 17m weighs 3.5kg. The Contra 17M is 4.3KG as is the new MotoXL also 4.3kg. The Zephyr has now a significant weigh reduction v older models. So my thoughts are this would possibly be like a 19-20M kite. Since I have a 17m & 19m ...