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by joyrider1
Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: "full" lean vs. "kinked" lean
Replies: 5
Views: 1555

"full" lean vs. "kinked" lean

Here some thoughts about the comments about the "lean": A lot of posts write about the leaning of the body. In KBHF I guess you all mean the complete leaning of you and your KBHF, maintaining an aligned position of you and the KBHF? We all try to avoid a kink (either at the feet or knees or hips or ...
by joyrider1
Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:04 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: How to turn a hydrofoil - and what is YAW ?
Replies: 83
Views: 18858

Re: How to turn a hydrofoil - and what is YAW ?

Are you sure that you are turning the foil primarily by roll and you do not yaw the board with the pull of your turning kite? If you like, next time when you go out with your foil, do the following experiment and lets us know how you feel: When going straight slacken the kite lines by going slightl...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:13 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: Countersteering
Replies: 18
Views: 4648

Re: Countersteering

How do you initiate the counter steer? Do you counter counter steer? How do you initiate that? By counter counter counter steering? Must say a little, no VERY tired of bike, and plane comparisons simply because our KBHFs have NO gyroscopic effect, OR use independent control surfaces. I am not sure ...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:28 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: switching feet on the fly
Replies: 7
Views: 1956

Re: switching feet on the fly

Some of you might kill me now because of some other threads :roll: But be aware that when you want to change the direction of feet then you somewhat turn/twist around your body axis. This twisting applies yawing force on the board/foil and will lead to steering the foil "out from under you". Makes a...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: Countersteering
Replies: 18
Views: 4648

Re: Countersteering

I think the example of the bike is unhelpful as an intuition pump to hydrofoiling since the gyroscopic stabilizing of the bike completely messes with one's ability to perceive what's actually happening. I ride my beach cruiser with no hands all the time, even around relatively sharp corners, and it...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:56 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: Countersteering
Replies: 18
Views: 4648

Re: Countersteering

Another example of useful application of countersteering for safety reasons in KBHF is making something like an “emergency turn”. Analogy to motorbiking safety training. Pretend you wanted to dodge an obstacle by turning away from it. Pretend a left turn. I was taught to push this side of the handle...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: Countersteering
Replies: 18
Views: 4648

Re: Countersteering

I think the example of the bike is unhelpful as an intuition pump to hydrofoiling since the gyroscopic stabilizing of the bike completely messes with one's ability to perceive what's actually happening. I ride my beach cruiser with no hands all the time, even around relatively sharp corners, and it...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:27 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: How to turn a hydrofoil - and what is YAW ?
Replies: 83
Views: 18858

Re: How to turn a hydrofoil - and what is YAW ?

If you lean your body to the inside (roll the foilboard) you need to yaw in order to keep you balance (CORRECT !!!) otherwise your inclined body will fall. When you lean to one side during hydrofoiling you can keep your balance only in two ways: 1. Use the support of the kite. ... You don`t need th...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:12 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: Countersteering
Replies: 18
Views: 4648

Re: Countersteering

Yes, you need your COG at the inside of the turn and just like a bike you need to offset the balance by countersteering so that you "fall" into the turn. But just like a bike this is someting that comes naturally, not something you are actively thinking about. Right, but maybe it helps the one or o...
by joyrider1
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:02 pm
Forum: Hydrofoil
Topic: Countersteering
Replies: 18
Views: 4648

Re: Countersteering

...(the front wheel turns and actually initiates the turn) ... To be clear, I am not saying the analogy is applicable, I am just stating the analogy to see what others think. The front wheel actually turns in the OPPOSITE direction which initiates the roll of the bike toward the direction the bike ...

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