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by foilholio
Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:12 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Ozone Explore V1
Replies: 6
Views: 720

Re: Ozone Explore V1

Well the earliest goes back to NASA, with the Nasa para wing or better known as the nasa wing kite.


Think where we would be if the budget from NASA even approached what the military gets...
by foilholio
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:53 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test
Replies: 35
Views: 2327

Re: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test

Well you are proving my point that you are an idiot. You say I don't understand mixers or foil kites, well you need to have a hard think about what you just wrote or try find someone to explain it to you, because I will not.
by foilholio
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Pansh Aurora II vs A15me
Replies: 49
Views: 3260

Re: Pansh Aurora II vs A15me

For the kites I have used I would say lift and hangtime is 80-90% of a similar flysurfer. Comparing Aurora1 vs Speed 3 and A15 vs Speed4. I would actually say A15 is closer to Speed 3/4 than Aurora1. I would think the Aurora2 is closer again. They are certainly much better than LEI still but there i...
by foilholio
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Pansh Genesis and some tuning
Replies: 26
Views: 2304

Re: Pansh Genesis and some tuning

@Regis good point yes if you have the new colors I would assume new bridles as well. @airsail thanks for that, sounds perfect. Should be perfect for light weight riders, extreme winds, kids, and even trainer kites. I wonder how they will price them? All $99? Kites under $99 will just be exceptional ...
by foilholio
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Pansh Genesis and some tuning
Replies: 26
Views: 2304

Re: Pansh Genesis and some tuning

I am not so sure on when the update of the Genesis bridle occurred, I saw it mentioned it was updated over a year ago, but then posts more recent disagree. Definitely is updated now, there is pics and reports. The change to the Genesis web page is very recent circa 1-2months, so there is a possibili...
by foilholio
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test
Replies: 35
Views: 2327

Re: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test

I should know better than to engage you by now.

Lets keep it simple.

You are an idiot.
by foilholio
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:34 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Pansh Genesis and some tuning
Replies: 26
Views: 2304

Re: Pansh Genesis and some tuning

Some of the other models have a lot of fans in the land kite community. When they updated some kites like Aurora, Genesis, and some others they did replace the previous model and scrap it. I can only assume other older models remain because people keep buying them. Reports from various sized A15 are...
by foilholio
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:20 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test
Replies: 35
Views: 2327

Re: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test

See this is the problem with falsehoods around foil kites. You have a dude claiming to be an expert, claiming to be some wonderful kite designer, who can't even grasp and especially observe the concept of B having a limit. This is simply seen as tension remaining in B on kites. You will see it in so...
by foilholio
Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Pansh Genesis and some tuning
Replies: 26
Views: 2304

Re: Pansh Genesis and some tuning

3.5m is a massive drop from 6m. Ideally you would want something like 6,5,4,3. 6,4.5, 3.5 could work.
by foilholio
Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:11 am
Forum: Foil Kites
Topic: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test
Replies: 35
Views: 2327

Re: Sonic FR 11 Long Mixer Test

I did the long mixet test along whole span of the kite on one side Interesting. I am impressed. At the end of the day measuring the whole kite to fix it has proven to me unnecessary. More numbers are always interesting though. One thing though :-) what force did you use to measure the bridles? Flys...

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