Fragger, you slightly missed my point. Of course, a 10m kite is a go to kite for many. My 9m smoke is a 1 kite quiver. The point I was trying to make is that Ozone will have known this. But after 10 years of making 7,9,11,13,Zephyr, why do they suddenly decide to make a 10m edge now? Why do that now...