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Postby tommen » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:35 pm

no squabble, just adding another clip :)

and yeah, two-line kite. norwegian rider nina heiberg was into hardcore wakestyle all from the beginning.

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Postby pebbles » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:08 pm

Sounds like when you do leave the water you are stalling.

You have to look where you want to go.

If you initiate the rotation with your head the body will follow.

Worry about style after you can land with confidence.

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Postby EdDy_DiFfUsIvItY » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:48 pm

tommen wrote:
this is what PKRA calls a s-bend.
so basically in an s bend the rotation is initiated after the body is horizontal , in addition the rotation is not initiated from the pop or jump ?

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Postby Adam S » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:14 pm

Guys, your're being to picky. Ten4's trick might be not the most stylish s-bend i've ever seen but it's definitely a s-bend. Not much different form the one form PKRA site.

Lukasz - kite is at about 45 degrees - what is low enough for you?

Moreover, to finish the rotation (and not land on your ass) you need some time in the air. It means you need height. And in that case it means pop. More pop than you would need to finish a back rotation.

I agree the lower the kite, the more horizontal pull and the more style in the move. But you always need a good pop. And those saying you don't need it are wrong.

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Postby jason_ssr » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:18 pm

I think the mechanics have been pretty well explained. As far as being legit, you need to understand a wakeboarding raley. your body needs to be laid out and your arms straight out in front. On the kite its really easy to not commit and leave your arms bent.

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Postby ELLINAS » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:58 pm

the kite on the PKRA video is way to high. More a rotation than anything else. This was not an S -bend.
Nice retro kite though !!

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Postby nemoz » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:23 pm

I think you have to learn tricks on a cable with wakeboard, you have not waves and kites, if you are able to make tricks on cable, you have no problem on kite.

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Postby lesbian horse » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:38 pm

raley and sbend on a kite should be done with little pop. Pop on a kite makes you go up. What you want is to get pulled horizontal hard and low, for this you dont want to edge to hard or you will slow down and get vertical pop. So go as fast as you can, go for about 50% pop, let the kite take you, have your arms fully stretched out and drop your front shoulder. When your upside down and looking at the sky point your legs at the sky, So that your board is always at the highest point of your body the whole way around.

The video on the other page. His kite is at a good angle but he is going for to much pop (hey most people go at it pussy, this guy went at it too hard, props there). What this does is loses the power out of the kite and its not pulling him when he is in the air, this makes him unable to get layed out flat. Less height more power more speed is required. He was on an 18m anyway so we will let him off for now :thumb:

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Postby solo flight » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:27 pm

Man has this old sack o'bones got a lot to learn :-?

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Postby eutanator » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:24 pm

Adam S wrote:
Lukasz - kite is at about 45 degrees - what is low enough for you?
... if the conditions in El Gouna will not failed - I will show you in the beginning of this season what I mean ;)

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