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on long lines. How long?

Postby grigorib » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:58 pm

There's certain portion of kiting crowd who know how long lines can help in lightwind, getting kite more apparent speed and delivering more pull on initial dive. You get on plane right away and if there's wind gradient it kicks in too.
Eventually you can fly a smaller lightwind kite.

The question for the forum is - how long?
30m? 35m? 39m? At what length it becomes too long?

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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby edt » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:30 am

I've kited 100 meter lines before. I think the limit is somewhere around 300-400 meters at that point the lines sag so much they touch the water.

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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:27 am

If it is for marginal winds and with htdrofoil, my personnal conviction is that the optimum and max length will depend on ... the bar pressure of your kite...
30m to 40 m is a good compromise in general, but you can go higher with a LEI that has "hard " bar pressure...
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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby zerogee_ca » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:52 am

I tried my wave kites with 4m extensions a few times for better low end in marginal light winds. It definately helped but I hated surfing with them. Ugh! Slowed the kite down just enough to blow my timing completely. The kite pulled harder in transitions to toeside too pulling me off the wave. It was harder to turn off the power. Kind of reminded me of surfing with my all around kites that way.

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Re: on long lines. How long?

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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby grigorib » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:03 am

Well, good old Peter Lynn ARC FAQ says every 3m of line extensions is equivalent to 1m of additional kite size. That is probably meant for regular lengths, not for crazy 50+ meters cases :)
Slingshot has 27m long lines
Liquid Force has 30m long lines
Flysurfer has 27m long lines

I've been flying on 30m in lightwind and on 37m for extreme lightwind myself. But I'm still curious about others' preferences.

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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby Hugh2 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:15 am

Should have rigged his lines sideways! Hogging the beach like that! :lol:

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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby iriejohn » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:03 pm

Bruce Buffer wrote:https://vimeo.com/139274398
Need good eyesight to do that! :lol:

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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby kiterocky » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:23 pm

The only way to have power with turbine :D :D nice video

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Re: on long lines. How long?

Postby Bille » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:08 pm

30m lines seamed LONG, and perfect, for my 13M Edge, in light wind, and 32m lines seamed
too long for that same kite ; but 32m lines were perfect for my 15M Ozone in light wind.

SO i think kite-size, has a lot to do with line length in light winds ?

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