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This is calling for a ban...

Postby Toby » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:25 pm

looks dangerous to me!
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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby Rorke » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:52 pm

That pilot should have his license suspended immediately! :D

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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby christophebcn » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:10 pm

reminds me of the viral video where a kiter gets taken away by a landing aircraft... :lol:

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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby Janus » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:31 pm

Toby wrote:looks dangerous to me!
Well you can't tell, can't see dept on a pic.
So it might look dangerous but can be totally save and allowed, depends on local rules etc.

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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby Jdizzle » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:32 pm

I agree, aeroplanes should be banned at that spot :lol:

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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby alpower » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:43 pm

Kiting in offshore wins, that's a no-no. Looks like St Barts?

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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby RickI » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:53 pm

It would be good for local kiting leaders, assuming there are some, to look into this with some authorities at the airport on the QT. If shifting riding zones could help avoid future complaints or problems and maintain access it would be a good thing. Perceived conflicts with aircraft operations have threatened kiting in more than one instance, northshore of Maui, Beef Island on Tortola and still more. I rode Beef Island back in the day, it was an easy shoreside tradewind launch. No more as the spot has been banned.

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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby Saami » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:11 pm

Although I am no expert on airplane models and their size, I think the relative size of the plane and the kite in that picture indicates that the airplane is in fact overland, far upwind (i.e., behind) the rider, and at a much greater altitude than the kite could possible reach.

In other words, that particular plane would never have been in any danger from the kite.

However, my understanding is that the vortexes formed by an airplane's wingtips angles downwards towards the ground/sea and can persist for minutes; so while kiters far below airplanes may not pose any danger to the aircraft, I am not sure if the opposite is true. Kiting into a wind vortex from a large aircraft would probably be a very nasty experience (provided that you even survive...)

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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby RickI » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:22 pm

The problem isn't (necessarily) contact between the kite and plane. I agree is this case they don't seem to very near to one another. The normal complaint that comes out from aircraft activities are distractions during take off and landing. This dictates staying sufficiently far away and/or out of the sight line of the strip to avoid the perception of this problem. We really don't want to push this sort of thing, it has cost the sport and access significantly in some cases. Change riding areas a little bit, put the word out to kiters and work to avoid problems ever coming up.

For kiters that are too close, tip vorticies can be a trip, one to avoid. Or better yet, getting snagged by the skid of a helicopter doing 70 kts. can change your whole perspective on things. If you hear an aircraft flying coastwise it is a good idea to get your kite close to the surface until you establish where it is and at what altitude. We have a ton of traffic flying over the nearshore area in SE Florida independent of airports.
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Re: This is calling for a ban...

Postby C Johnson » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:24 pm

that guy has got Kahoonas!


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