Kite2Heaven, the RACER kites come in 11/14/17 meters. If you want smaller you go with the SCREAMER 9 or 7.
This is a picture of the RACER kite in action.
This is a great kite; we had the chance to test your prototype a little more than a year ago and it is quite a machine. Can't wait to try the final productDimitri M wrote:Kite2Heaven, the RACER kites come in 11/14/17 meters. If you want smaller you go with the SCREAMER 9 or 7.
This is a picture of the RACER kite in action.
Hello alexeyga and thank you for your post. But some how I found this very interesting because people say the opposite. They find that the RENEGADE have not a lot of bar pressure compare to the kite they have been riding. For example I had a person demoing the RENEGADE 9 few days ago in 18 to 23 mph and he was very impressed about the kite but was not use the light bar pressure compare to what he has been riding. Maybe your settings are wrong. Maybe the outside lines of your bar are too short which will make the kite to back stall + that will also give you more bar pressure then normal.Anybody had a chance to ride the Renegade 5m? I'd be curious to hear some reviews, as it already happened twice that I was rather over-powered on the Renegade 7 that I've got as my "survival" kite, which b.t.w. is a freaking powerhouse. Side by side with my friend's Kahoona 7.5m, who's lighter and rides a slightly longer TT than me - I'm out-riding him in bottom end, but can't clame the same regarding the top end though.
Also, at 200lbs I'm finding that Epic kites have been designed with smaller riders or wave-riding in mind when it comes to bar pressure and that goes for all models that I own/tried (R13LTD, S12, S10LTD, R9, R7). At the bottom end of windrange, bar pressure is very comfortable and light, but I can't jump or do anything fun for sh#t!!! Well-powered however - it's a whole different and a rather heavy story. Even the R7, in well/over-powered conditions is very bar-heavy!!! So as such I believe that lighter riders, as well as wave riders who would be using a smaller size in same conditions are the ones getting the "light bar pressure" that was advertised.
I do hope you do not believe that about the world best selling kite...the North Rebel loaded 5th lineDimitri M wrote: Also all our kites fly on 4 lines, I don't BELEIVE on the 5th line. Kites that uses a 5th line are kites that JELLY FISH a lot and that WON'T RELAUNCH easy and that IS THE REASON why they had to put a 5th line.
Thanks for the reply Dimitri! Funny thing is, back when I was testing Epic kites back to back with "other" kites, I was lacking both the bar pressure and feedback too - you can actually check my reviews of R9 and R13LTD from the 3G-thread. But now that I fly nothing but Epic kites, I'm finding that there's plenty of feedback and more than enough of bar pressure to go along! And my settings are fine, I fly all my kites with one Epic bar on which I made sure that all lines are set equal first thing after receiving it. I also remember our local Epic dealer's review of the Screamer 12 3G which he found to be on the heavy side too, so I'm sure I'm not the only one.Dimitri M wrote: Hello alexeyga and thank you for your post. But some how I found this very interesting because people say the opposite. They find that the RENEGADE have not a lot of bar pressure compare to the kite they have been riding. For example I had a person demoing the RENEGADE 9 few days ago in 18 to 23 mph and he was very impressed about the kite but was not use the light bar pressure compare to what he has been riding. Maybe your settings are wrong. Maybe the outside lines of your bar are too short which will make the kite to back stall + that will also give you more bar pressure then normal.
Also the bar pressure on the SCREAMERS are less then the RENEGADE. But still the bar pressure on the RENEGADE is really nice. Not too much and not too little just a perfect balance.