This means the shop is losing money on the Item..This is how it works. You the shop pay 1000 dollars from a company for a kite to sell. You charge 1300 for the kite. (almost all distributors charge the dealer 30% less then retail for their items)..What they stock and how much of it may effect their margins slightly but only by a percent or two. The shop then works their ass off to sell the kite, and lets say they do not.w_ndrunner wrote:
Tony,
for the past four years, the shop that I patronize has year end kite sales and the savings have been more than 30%, so what would be the incentive for a store to sell at a loss...
given that the store is still in business does that mean they make very very close to 30% on most item allowing them to sell some items at a loss to gain a broader customer base who in the future will buy at the 30% mark up price...
windr
w_ndrunner wrote: once the actual dealer cost is established and known then the buyer can negotiate a reasonable mark up between 4 and 9 percent...
windr
Very well put Poacher!POACHER wrote:w_ndrunner wrote: once the actual dealer cost is established and known then the buyer can negotiate a reasonable mark up between 4 and 9 percent...
windr
What planet are you from where a 4-9% markup in business is even worth doing? What do you do for a living?
Plummer?
Doctor?
Gas Pumper?
Do you operate on 4 - 9% profit margins? Hell no. That's probably not even enough to pay your monthly nut or keep the lights on.
If you had any business sense, you'd realise just how insulting your comment is.
This "negotiate" everything has got to stop. Not every business is a third world country selling trinkets on the beach or a flea market. Go into any other kind of retail store........hell go into Wally World and tell them that you're willing to pay 4-9% above cost because you feel that's reasonable.
You'll be escorted outside rather quickly.
Now I'm not trying to get into a bash session, but the public's increasing sense of entitlement to know a business' cost is complete bullshit. If you work or have worked in any area of retail, you'd know where I'm coming from. The "bad economy" bs fluffed all over the evening news has only thrown gas on the fire too. People go in with the attitude that everyone selling something is rotting on the vine and need every cent possible to make a go of things.
Retail is a tough enough business these days, especially with the internet. My point here (there is one I assure you!) is that respect should be given to a good local business and their efforts to make a living. The benefits of a good local dealer far outweigh the few bucks you can save by buying something online most of the time. Bear this in mind when buying something that WILL require service, warranty or instruction. You'll thank me later.
Rant over.
POACHER wrote:w_ndrunner wrote: once the actual dealer cost is established and known then the buyer can negotiate a reasonable mark up between 4 and 9 percent...
windr
What planet are you from where a 4-9% markup in business is even worth doing? What do you do for a living?
Plummer?
Doctor?
Gas Pumper?
Do you operate on 4 - 9% profit margins? Hell no. That's probably not even enough to pay your monthly nut or keep the lights on.
If you had any business sense, you'd realise just how insulting your comment is.
This "negotiate" everything has got to stop. Not every business is a third world country selling trinkets on the beach or a flea market. Go into any other kind of retail store........hell go into Wally World and tell them that you're willing to pay 4-9% above cost because you feel that's reasonable.
You'll be escorted outside rather quickly.
Now I'm not trying to get into a bash session, but the public's increasing sense of entitlement to know a business' cost is complete bullshit. If you work or have worked in any area of retail, you'd know where I'm coming from. The "bad economy" bs fluffed all over the evening news has only thrown gas on the fire too. People go in with the attitude that everyone selling something is rotting on the vine and need every cent possible to make a go of things.
Retail is a tough enough business these days, especially with the internet. My point here (there is one I assure you!) is that respect should be given to a good local business and their efforts to make a living. The benefits of a good local dealer far outweigh the few bucks you can save by buying something online most of the time. Bear this in mind when buying something that WILL require service, warranty or instruction. You'll thank me later.
Rant over.
I totally agree with you. If you run a kite shop you should not do it to make money, you should do it because you enjoy it. You should not rely on selling kites to make a living, they should have an extra job ontop of it.w_ndrunner wrote: once the actual dealer cost is established and known then the buyer can negotiate a reasonable mark up between 4 and 9 percent...
Not really your conventional retail business model...Tiago1973 wrote:around here almost all/lot´s of brand dealers do not do not own a shop
i´ll pay in advance for the kite, the guy place the order and deal with the paper work, i´ll wait 3 or 4 weeks or maybe more (as there is no stock) and that´s it
where is the risk of this kind of operation and how much does this worth?
9% of profit margin is perfectly reasonable to me
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