Cool looking directionals!
Props on the aesthetics for those new Zones, they look slick.
TTesque edge with padding on top to provide abit of volume.
jb8431 wrote:For Rainer Kauper,
One of the things I love about the spleen zone is No tow in on the fins.
Having liked the spleen so much in the snowboard/ kite board construction style I tried the Nobile infinity thinking it would be very similar. Boy was I wrong!!! that board is so slow it moves like it's pulling seaweed it's got too much flex in the nose, has towed in symmetrical fins, and perhaps an inappropriate bottom shape which was a wavey concave that added a lot of drag. I bought the 5'7"
And sold it. Then the next guy hated it as much as me and sold it. the 3rd owner of it hated it even more. We all concluded it was super slow and the elements made the board one of the worst we ever used.
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It is not so easy as it sounds to find out the best fin setup for all needs. At the old Zone boards we have used symmetrical fins which was good for the speed and gliding performance in flat water and choppy conditions. At radical turns in waves this setup was not as good as it could be. The new Zone is excellent in both exercises. The tracker fins are asymmetrical and have a little tow in. That makes the board fast and you can edge in turns as much as you like without breaking out. Please believe me: I hate slow boards and you will never ever get a Spleene board which is not fast.jb8431 wrote:For Rainer Kauper,
I still own my 159 spleen zone. one of the best boards I've ever had.
I noticed on the new boards just on your schematic views of them that there's tow in angle on the fins.
One of the things I love about the spleen zone is No tow in on the fins.
Having liked the spleen so much in the snowboard/ kite board construction style I tried the Nobile infinity thinking it would be very similar. Boy was I wrong!!! that board is so slow it moves like it's pulling seaweed it's got too much flex in the nose, has towed in symmetrical fins, and perhaps an inappropriate bottom shape which was a wavey concave that added a lot of drag. I bought the 5'7"
And sold it. Then the next guy hated it as much as me and sold it. the 3rd owner of it hated it even more. We all concluded it was super slow and the elements made the board one of the worst we ever used.
In my opinion this style board should not have towed in fins. It should have a relatively stiff flex to avoid chatter in choppy conditions, and the speed brake you feel with too much flex in the nose.
Please do not mind me not to talk too much about boards, kites and bars from other brands. Other designers/shapers have different ideas how should gear work. I think the new Zone is a really good waveboard which is an absolutely improvement to the older Zones. Once you have tried it, you will for sure agree.jb8431 wrote:So...question is how are the new spleenes different then Nobile?
In steep waves you need a minimum of scoop in the nose to avoid cutting into the wave. Therefore you need a minimum of length. There is no flattering nose even in heavy chop, because of a very well designed flex. The rockerline at the tail is more curved like at the older Zone boards. We have really tested a lot of different scoops and the one we have chosen is great.jb8431 wrote:5'6" is too long in my opinion and could be shorter and still just as fast, with out all the extra swing weight. I am curious about the rocker line too. A more continuos rocker line should improve hydrodynamics and provide better flowing turns without the stall turns of a flat no rockered tail.
These are the old Zone boards from 2008 to 2010.max wrote:My 5'3" (159) zone has 100mm fins fitted rather than the standard 80mm fins.
The 5'8" (174) zone has strengths in different areas to the 5'3" zone.