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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby pixelpedro » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:38 pm

airsail wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:41 pm
The question is, does the bar need a hole in it for the depower line, can this line be run through an eye on the side of the tube rather than through the tube. Makes for a much stronger bar with no added weight to restrengthen it after boring a bloody great hole through the centre.

Without going into a testing stage has anyone tried this?
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UH? this sounds crazy interesting but I'm having an issue visualizing it, is this an actual thing or a mad scientist concept?

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby airsail » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:27 am

Easy enough to mount a low friction ring on the side of a carbon tube without drilling holes, a Kevlar tape/epoxy wrap would be quite adequate as there is bugger all load. Bar ends would probably come from an existing bar. Foam grip is easy to apply on a straight tube.
The result would be a strong, lightweight, floating bar with zero corrosion.
I just don’t know if the offset depower hole is an issue. No good for unhooking, but maybe ok for wave and foiling.

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby Bushflyr » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:11 am

^^It's a pretty crappy Idea. I invented a strap setup to do this back in 2000 or so. In those days our depower line would abrade and snap every couple sessions when routed through the bar so I made some nylon straps to do it instead. They worked great, except that you can't unspin your bar after a kiteloop or back roll. Sold a bunch of them, but the idea quickly passed with the advent of good bushings built into the bar and spectra line.

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby zerogee_ca » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:16 am

Guys used this thing when making their own bars way back.
http://www.reliancemarine.com/Product/2 ... /View.aspx

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby pixelpedro » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:32 am

zerogee_ca wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:16 am
Guys used this thing when making their own bars way back.
http://www.reliancemarine.com/Product/2 ... /View.aspx
Mmmm IDK about this thing, I'd think that you want a cleaner setup no more crap added to increase the chances of a slacked line getting caught in anything.

Wonder if there a way to do the center part (with a hole) in aluminum or some other light + strong metal and the rest in carbon?

Less is more.

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby downunder » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:14 am

Hmm,

no one seen this: viewtopic.php?f=107&t=2395445

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby pixelpedro » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:08 am

downunder wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:14 am
Hmm,

no one seen this: viewtopic.php?f=107&t=2395445
Sweet! I sure hadn't, tnx @downunder

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby merl » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:57 pm

airsail wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:41 pm
So more in the interests of weight saving, rather than chicken loop bye bye, a carbon bar rather than the current heavy alloy offerings from the major manufacturers. Best used to do them but I guess cost and ease of manufacture has stopped the idea.

The question is, does the bar need a hole in it for the depower line, can this line be run through an eye on the side of the tube rather than through the tube. Makes for a much stronger bar with no added weight to restrengthen it after boring a bloody great hole through the centre.

Without going into a testing stage has anyone tried this?
Thanks
Used to have a long bar like this many years back - with an eye bolted on the the top of the bar. I seem to remember that it worked fine - not so strange for hooked-in riding (which is what this thread is about of course). I recently thought about this again when I noticed that you can get carbon bike bars very cheaply. No idea whether they would be strong enough though.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Special ... autifyAB=0

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby jannik » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:18 pm

Just read the above mentioned thread 😀

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby airsail » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:45 pm

Just ordered a set of flat carbon MTB bars from China, stupidly cheap and North bar ends will fit straight on. Just have to work out the centre hole, 31mm bulge in the middle, enough for an insert, or add something externally. Will be plenty strong enough for kiting, a lot more load when used on a MTB than light wind hooked in kiting.
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