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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby matth » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:03 pm

How about the bar? is it as good as it looks?

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby Stewynew » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:29 am

matth wrote:How about the bar? is it as good as it looks?
Yep! I've had about 100hrs use on mine now and can't fault it other than to say the super cool orange colour is dirty :) The above and below swivels work great together and the leash is also great quality.

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby pixelpedro » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:27 pm

matth wrote:How about the bar? is it as good as it looks?
The LF bar (Response) absolutely rocks! the swivels actually work I've never had an above the bar swivel work as good as the LF one. super comfy bar, seems a bit bulky when I first got it, but its pretty light too, so it works very well, can't imaging the CPR being any different except is below the bar depower.

My only tiny complaint would be the above the bar depower, seems to get a little stuck at times making it really hard to depower at times.

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby kooshball » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:56 pm

pixelpedro wrote:
matth wrote:How about the bar? is it as good as it looks?
The LF bar (Response) absolutely rocks! the swivels actually work I've never had an above the bar swivel work as good as the LF one. super comfy bar, seems a bit bulky when I first got it, but its pretty light too, so it works very well, can't imaging the CPR being any different except is below the bar depower.

My only tiny complaint would be the above the bar depower, seems to get a little stuck at times making it really hard to depower at times.
That new bar is tits; maybe I get one for free if I buy three kites?!

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby IanNJ » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:21 pm

The Response bar (the new one) is a fantastic design. BUT the bar has been recalled. There is a posting on LFs website. There wi be a fix for the issue soon (what im told). In Augest the 2016 comes out and should have the issues fixed. CPR bar is just a standard bar...

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby kooshball » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:42 pm

Can the chicken loop be shortened on the new bar?

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby posty » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:29 pm

pixelpedro wrote:
matth wrote:How about the bar? is it as good as it looks?
The LF bar (Response) absolutely rocks! the swivels actually work I've never had an above the bar swivel work as good as the LF one. super comfy bar, seems a bit bulky when I first got it, but its pretty light too, so it works very well, can't imaging the CPR being any different except is below the bar depower.

My only tiny complaint would be the above the bar depower, seems to get a little stuck at times making it really hard to depower at times.
if you have it full power you still need just a little bit of rope in the cleat.
if you let it rest against the housing it will be stuck.

this bar is much better than the CPR.
2 swivels, above the bar depower, adjustable depower length, bar lenght adjustable in no time and de CL release system is so easy to reassemble you can do it with 1 hand.

Oh yeah, and the new Envy rocks!
Jumping, hangtime, wakestyle...
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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby posty » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:40 pm

IanNJ wrote:The Response bar (the new one) is a fantastic design. BUT the bar has been recalled. There is a posting on LFs website. There wi be a fix for the issue soon (what im told). In Augest the 2016 comes out and should have the issues fixed. CPR bar is just a standard bar...
apparently there is something in the CL that will cause the system to have a delayed release.
i'm using the bar with teaching for months and i haven't had any issue with the release system.
i'm very happy with it!
if you have an issue always contact your dealer no matter what brand.

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby posty » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:42 pm

kooshball wrote:Can the chicken loop be shortened on the new bar?
why? it's not that big!

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Re: Real world review of 2015 liquid force Envy?

Postby matth » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:14 pm

How would you compare the Envy to the Switchbalde?. I fly SBs now and like a lot of things about them. The negatives with the SB for me would be high bar pressure(my elbows hurt), constant pull, and they do not seem great at going upwind. Positives are very good range , super stable, good re-launch , build.


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