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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Archer77 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:12 pm

in any case after have read all the good comments I think this catalyst V1 wind range are a little misleading for beginner ... looking at them I was thinking 12-8 was the right choice also for beginners
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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Starsky » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:23 pm

I love wind range graphs. Marketing science voodoo at its best.

Complicates things when you want to stick to a particular model that only comes in specific gaps..... more voodoo at work.

Keep in mind you might also start thinking about surfboards or even a foil. A 12/10 has no where near the versatility a 12/9 does once you throw something like that in the mix.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Archer77 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:33 pm

it's good this year they have started make it also in 9mt measure, last year measure were only the one in the graph...

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby dylan* » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:42 pm

That wind chart is not too bad, but yeah it's a little misleading. You could totally ride with a 12-8 combo, I did it for a while. What's misleading about the graph is how much overlap they have, though. You will frequently have too much power to have fun on a 12, and not have enough on an 8.

But it also depends on what conditions are like at your spot... some places the wind is either weak or strong with nothing in between, so you can get by with different quivers.

The general rule is 3m gaps for larger sizes and 2m gaps for the smaller sizes

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Archer77 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:55 pm

dylan* wrote:That wind chart is not too bad, but yeah it's a little misleading. You could totally ride with a 12-8 combo, I did it for a while. What's misleading about the graph is how much overlap they have, though. You will frequently have too much power to have fun on a 12, and not have enough on an 8.

But it also depends on what conditions are like at your spot... some places the wind is either weak or strong with nothing in between, so you can get by with different quivers.

The general rule is 3m gaps for larger sizes and 2m gaps for the smaller sizes
yes very big overlap... they seam all very near each other

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby iriejohn » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:27 am

dylan* wrote:The general rule is 3m gaps for larger sizes and 2m gaps for the smaller sizes
^^^ That.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby shawn13 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:32 pm

plummet wrote:
shawn13 wrote:
plummet wrote:
No it's not the perfect set up 6 to 9 is too big. There's times when a 6 is underdone and a 9 is too powered. I've seen many times when 7 or 8 is ideal.
Works for me. But I like to be really jacked before i switch because its better for boosting.
Yeah, but when you switch from a jacked 9 to only just powered 6 you wont be boosting big at all.... at that point where the 9 to too much a 7 will be perfect.
Depends on the riding, 9m on a twintip to 6m on a surf. No one is even talking about the variable of boards here. They have a huge effect.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby plummet » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:00 pm

shawn13 wrote:
plummet wrote:
shawn13 wrote:
Works for me. But I like to be really jacked before i switch because its better for boosting.
Yeah, but when you switch from a jacked 9 to only just powered 6 you wont be boosting big at all.... at that point where the 9 to too much a 7 will be perfect.
Depends on the riding, 9m on a twintip to 6m on a surf. No one is even talking about the variable of boards here. They have a huge effect.
Of course this is true. If you are prepared to ride different styles and different boards then a bigger gap can be made to work. Hell I go from 12 chrono (similar wind range to 17 zep to 8 catalyst of the foil! No need for in between sizing their. But traditional sb riding or free riding if you want to ride the same style then you need a smaller gap

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby knotwindy » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:28 pm

Also the thread was asked for a beginner. Not the same range for switching boards as a beginner. Most can barely figure out one board. So, also smaller gap.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Flyboy » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:36 pm

Kite brands with 2m gaps are problematic IMO. It forces you to choose between 2m gap (too little) or 4m (too much). Better to offer 1m gaps so that you can pick the appropriate combo for your weight, the winds you kite in, the kind of board you ride & the kind of kiting you do.


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