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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Archer77 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:21 pm

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby plummet » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:29 am

shawn13 wrote:
plummet wrote:
shawn13 wrote:I also do 3m gap... 6m, 9m, 12m, 15m. The gap is perfect.
No it's not the perfect set up 6 to 9 is too big. There's times when a 6 is underdone and a 9 is too powered. I've seen many times when 7 or 8 is ideal.
Works for me. But I like to be really jacked before i switch because its better for boosting.
Yeah, but when you switch from a jacked 9 to only just powered 6 you wont be boosting big at all.... at that point where the 9 to too much a 7 will be perfect.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Flyboy » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:06 am

But that is again dependent on what kind of riding you're doing. Around here where SBs are the norm people don't want to be "jacked", they want to be comfortably powered so they are not getting dragged around by the kite.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby knotwindy » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:32 am

Lots of interesting insights but for a beginner, 3m gap is not the answer
Unless the objective is too take as long as possible to learn and be safe, imo

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Starsky » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:54 pm

Bullshit.

Until your down under 9m 2 and 1m gaps are for enthusiasts. Most rider out there are just fine with 12/9/7 regardless of where and how they ride.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby iriejohn » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:24 pm

knotwindy wrote:Lots of interesting insights but for a beginner, 3m gap is not the answer
Unless the objective is too take as long as possible to learn and be safe, imo
Starsky wrote:Bullshit.

Until your down under 9m 2 and 1m gaps are for enthusiasts. Most rider out there are just fine with 12/9/7 regardless of where and how they ride.
You're both right. :thumb:

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby knotwindy » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:43 pm

OK, if that is how you want your gaps, fine. No reason to get your panties all in a bind.
I prefer 12 -10 instead of 12-9 because it gets me off the 12 sooner and I would rather ride a 10 than a 12. Also, we are talking about beginners. For the "average" intermediate rider 12-19-7 is probably fine but imo a beginner needs to be on the "perfect" kite for the conditions to learn faster and be safer. If you think an underpowered 9 or an overpowered 12 for a beginner is better, use it. Not my circus, not my monkey.

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby iriejohn » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:54 pm

knotwindy wrote:OK, if that is how you want your gaps, fine. No reason to get your panties all in a bind.
I prefer 12 -10 instead of 12-9 because it gets me off the 12 sooner and I would rather ride a 10 than a 12. Also, we are talking about beginners. For the "average" intermediate rider 12-19-7 is probably fine but imo a beginner needs to be on the "perfect" kite for the conditions to learn faster and be safer. If you think an underpowered 9 or an overpowered 12 for a beginner is better, use it. Not my circus, not my monkey.
By the same token a beginner should have 1m between kites so as to "learn faster and be safer".

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby grigorib » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:57 pm

Let's not forget that 12m is a bit to big for the guy to start with and he should have a smaller kite for regular winds...

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Re: how many squaremeters between the first 2 kites for a beginner?

Postby Starsky » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:01 pm

grigorib wrote:Let's not forget that 12m is a bit to big for the guy to start with and he should have a smaller kite for regular winds...
?? Too big?

Just right for 80 kg and two boards.

There are a lot of ways to build a quiver. But the guy already has a 12.

Beginners need that little extra horse power. Starting with twin tips thats a 14 for the bigger guys and a 12 for most... A 10 for small people. Puts beginners out there between 14 and 22 knots. Once someone gets comfy and can stay upwind, maybe start to feel the need to depower a bit at the cleat, they are ready for a smaller kite. A 10 is just a small 12. A 9 is a different animal makes a great intro to the next level of conditions. Once they know what their doing with a 9m they will know whats next for them... and yes, a 7 is a nicer step than a 6... but eventually requires get a 5!


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