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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby vannibombonato » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:40 pm

You can't talk about a "limit" the same way we talk about "limits" i.e in athletics ("what is the time limit of running the 100m?").
The reason is simple, and its that beside human and gear"limits" (and evolution), there is an ever changing uncontrollable variable that is nature: mostly wind, but also water conditions, etc.
Maybe you hit a gust, maybe not, maybe strong gust, maybe weak, maybe thermal, maybe a giant wave, maybe a gust right at the tip of the giant wave, etc etc etc. there are people who "jumped" to the sky just due to lofting while on beach.

To talk about limits makes sense only within a given set of specific conditions, like, what's the limit in flat water, 30kn steady, etc.

This is all theory obviously, I think that in a sport like kiting what really counts is overcoming own personal limits and fears, and that's why it's so awesome, you can feel like an hero even if your performing 70% worse than the best. At least that's what I tell myself after spending hours trying to get past an absymal 10m...

And yes...you have to land it :-)

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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby plummet » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:50 pm

vannibombonato wrote:You can't talk about a "limit" the same way we talk about "limits" i.e in athletics ("what is the time limit of running the 100m?").
The reason is simple, and its that beside human and gear"limits" (and evolution), there is an ever changing uncontrollable variable that is nature: mostly wind, but also water conditions, etc.
Maybe you hit a gust, maybe not, maybe strong gust, maybe weak, maybe thermal, maybe a giant wave, maybe a gust right at the tip of the giant wave, etc etc etc. there are people who "jumped" to the sky just due to lofting while on beach.

To talk about limits makes sense only within a given set of specific conditions, like, what's the limit in flat water, 30kn steady, etc.

This is all theory obviously, I think that in a sport like kiting what really counts is overcoming own personal limits and fears, and that's why it's so awesome, you can feel like an hero even if your performing 70% worse than the best. At least that's what I tell myself after spending hours trying to get past an absymal 10m...

And yes...you have to land it :-)
I think you can talk about limits. Much the same as people can and do about how fast you can do on a kite or wind powered. Its about the combination of skill, technology combined with the right conditions to make a new record. Every single wind powered speed record has been obtained this way. Why not height?

There should be some rules. Ie must be some basic rules like jump cant be assisted by motorized equipment, has to be from sea level, jumping off cliffs, mountains etc needs to have a different category.
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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby PullStrings » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:55 pm

Troposhere is the limit......Woooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!

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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby vindsportknut » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:48 pm

There's obviously a limit. It's just less controlled than running. The history of kite jumping is limited. You may hit a hot air bubble an be flown away. I think errors like that must be excluded. "Normal" gusts on the other hand is countable.

In two years we've reached close to 27 m. In 10 years my bet is 35 m in controlled conditions.

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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby Kamikuza » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:52 am

plummet wrote:doesn't count as a successful jump
you must land it to call it a successful

Those are the rules I apply to myself.
Still a jump though, by definition: you go, you go down. Only matters to you and competitions if it's "successful" or not.

And Woo counts the peak, not the landing so again, good luck telling the leaderboard riders their jumps don't count :lol:

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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby TheRussian » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:29 pm

Kamikuza wrote:And Woo counts the peak, not the landing so again, good luck telling the leaderboard riders their jumps don't count :lol:
lol... plus all moon landings didn't count, as they crashed/splash landed !

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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby jeromeL » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:19 pm

On wok you can kind of tell if you landed it. Anything above 6G landing is going to be hard to actually land without butt checking it.
Joshua did 7G on his 26m jump and also got some 9G landing! Pretty much each session get gets 7G landing, he is definitely pushing it.

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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby plummet » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:27 pm

New Record. 27.5m.

I wonder if he landed it?
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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby jeromeL » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:53 pm

plummet wrote:New Record. 27.5m.

I wonder if he landed it?
5.4 G landing so it's possible he landed it.

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Re: Limit of height jumping

Postby TheRussian » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:07 pm

plummet wrote:New Record. 27.5m.

I wonder if he landed it?

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Love it.... incredibly high, but still putting the board over his head for max height


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