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Postby Matt_TYRCZ » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:56 pm
based on your experience, which Naish kite you think is best boosting .
seems that all pro riders pick Torch ESP to hold more edge and boost ,
i have Parks and older Torches , just switching to Parks HDs which boots nice but is there anything better ? maybe Draft ?
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Postby tegirinenashi » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:04 pm
Naish x10
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Postby SLiiCK » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:30 pm
I can't comment on the Torch ESP but at the moment by far my favorite is the Park HD similar to my early C kites pre 2004 but that was a long time ago, the HD is far improved on my previous Parks Bolts and Cults. Hope they bring a 2017/18 model out!
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Postby Do-it » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:38 pm
Naish charger 2011. Floatiest kite ive ever boosted. But I have never flown a torch. I'd really like the oportunity to fly one.
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Postby dracop » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:09 pm
For boosting high (eg jumping highest), a Naish Torch. None of the pros use the ESP setting except for PR shoots. I live on Maui (Naish HQ central) and watch Naish pro riders quite often. ALl it does is offer more depower and a Torch is an Always On kite that you depower with your board, not your bar. The ESP setting offers little value to any rider experienced with C kites, its mostly a scardey cat mode to get Open C riders to make the transition to full C.
For max hangtime with a big jump, the older Naish Draft and newer Naish Daish. The Daish is sitll a very immature design imo and suffers from alot of design issues (I would not recommend it) that will be fixed in the future. For example, it backstalls like no tomorrow at odd moments. Older Drafts are a much better, mature, tested design with good performance for their time. Of the two I would prefer to get a deal on an unused Draft (they are out there) rather than buy a Daish (2017 Daish is a crappy kite).
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Postby BudhaNl » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:52 pm
Naish Daish? You'll refer to the Dash which supposedly will be launched later this year. Who has experience with that other than Naish pro riders who've helped development?
Or do you mean the Slash wave kite?
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Postby dracop » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:55 am
Naish had a bunch of Dashes at the dealer meeting on Maui several months ago. Alot of people got to fly it, including non-Naish people. I watched that kite backstall a gajillion times in normal wind. Prob for the best they delayed it, hopefully they fixed it up, strongly recommend you demo it.
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Postby dracop » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:07 am
BudhaNl wrote:Naish Daish? You'll refer to the Dash which supposedly will be launched later this year. Who has experience with that other than Naish pro riders who've helped development?
Or do you mean the Slash wave kite?
Oh here is a public picture of the Dash out in the wild by a distributor:
https://www.facebook.com/FCWatersports/
Dunno, surprised its not announced yet, the dealer meeting was in October and the models they had on the beach had complete graphics (and they had ALOT of them on the beach, unusual to see 30-40 prototypes with full graphics).
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Postby Matt_TYRCZ » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:47 am
Dash looks like LF Envy copy
so do you think you can go bigger on 2016 Draft 7m or Torch 7m/8m in the same wind?
also,
how much difference would be between 20 and 24 m lines?
i found shorter lines move kite faster thru the window and loop it more agressive
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Postby seaplus » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:00 am
The Drafts were the best boosting kite and I cannot believe Naish removed it from their line-up without a replacement.
I'm happy to hear they're possibly working on a replacement but if the Dash is it...it doesn't appear that it'll be a booster.
So for Naish's current line-up...the Torch currently would be their best boost kite.
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