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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby ulx » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:05 pm

dirtybeach wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:52 pm
... As far as the bottom dings on the stallion, apparently the v2 addresses that ...
Here´s what DSD says about the construction of the V2:
"NEW We fine tuned and improved further the construction by using an higher quality of glass fiber and implementing the fiber in a different matting structure, as a result the Stallion V2 is even stronger then before. The factory invested further in their self built cutting machine for an even more accurate result of the cutting process. The Stallion has been designed for kiting in every way, not only shape wise, but also offering you a bullet proof construction that withstands the fierce pressures during riding on the board and thus making the Stallion more durable."

Well, let´s knock on wood then.

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby effisk » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:45 pm

dirtybeach wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:52 pm
As far as the bottom dings on the stallion, apparently the v2 addresses that.
From what I heard, it's the exact same board, except that they're using a "more eco friendly resin", and "a higher quality of glass fiber".
dirtybeach wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:52 pm
End of the day, you can't go wrong with either board.
Well my stallion just snapped today after a month of use.

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby NorCalNomad » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:39 pm

effisk wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:45 pm
dirtybeach wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:52 pm
End of the day, you can't go wrong with either board.
Well my stallion just snapped today after a month of use.
That's no good :o

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby nicor » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:51 pm

Ouch...how'd it break? Jump?
Can you post a pic?
I order one a little while ago, hopefully it will hold up! Unfortunately my Roberts just started to delam heavily, in the shop for major job.

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby effisk » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:12 am

Here's a short video of the 10mn session before it snapped: https://vimeo.com/223513734

Some jumps, but nothing crazy. Soft landings. Whenever I felt that the landing was going to be rough I just wiped out.

Most sessions were around or below 15 knots so no jumping. I only had two sessions with wind averaging 25 knots, including today's 10mn sesh.

and here's a pic: Image

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby NorCalNomad » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:15 am

Looks like my quickfire construction vanguard when I broke it jumping. :/

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby topmick » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:35 am

Nice riding effisk, if your looking for another board - maybe have a look at Sunova.
Bert makes a strong & also light board, mine is two years old now & hardly a depression on the deck.
FireWire shapes are hard to beat, I have a new Helium Tech 5'3 Evo that I surf & kite but the Sunova construction imo is superior in strength & also lighter.
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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby boarder-79 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:08 pm

@ effisk. that's sad man, especially because the guys at DSD Intel(or the manufacturer Appletree Surfboards) claim that their construction is made for hard Strapless Freestyle Action.
I think the main thing even nowadays it's still impossible to manufacture a very light board, in classic Surfboard construction which will outlast hard Kitesurf Sessions.
The forces when jumping strapless with a kite are much higher than classic surfers jumping... so in my opinion if you want a board that lasts longer, and won't break in your first season you should choose another construction technique than a classic surfboard.
And even Carbon Cosntructions aren't doing the Trick, since Carbon is not made for a Unilateral Flex.

I think a good example is, what takoon is doing with their flaxbiotek Construction.

Takoon:
Check out: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2395672&p=968512
And especially https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzKaHnxYZCQ&t=5m57s

The tradeoff is that you have a Board which might be 400gramms heavier, but at least you can have fun with it for more than one season!


Some tiny German Engineer factory,
Dynamic Surf Product:
http://www.dynamic-surf-product.de/inde ... ch_en.html
https://vimeo.com/40821818


So imho the Classic Polyester Surfboard Construction just doesn't make sense for us Kiteboarders.
Look at the pictures of a Broken "high End" Firewire Board: http://stormrider.de/surfer-community/2 ... photoid=29
Why are the Boards so expensive if it's just such a simple construction?

The Surfboard Industry is kept alive, by regular surfers, who are used to snap their boards regularly and beeing confident with buying a new ones every season. :duh:
What would happen if Surfboards would be durable and you could use it for at least 4-5 years regularly?

So i think it really makes sense to support the companies which try to produce light and durable Boards! :superfly:
The first fiberglass Board was made 1946, so now over 70 years ago it just make sense to move on to some new techniques....

Does anybody now some other good Kitesurfboard manufacturers which offer a different construction technique than a classic surfboard?

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby knotwindy » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:14 pm

Doyle boards from the gorge, crazy strong, ride well

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Re: DSD Stallion 5'4 - anyone rode it?

Postby effisk » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:09 pm

boarder-79 wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:08 pm
I think a good example is, what takoon is doing with their flaxbiotek Construction.

Takoon:
Check out: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2395672&p=968512
And especially https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzKaHnxYZCQ&t=5m57s
I'll have to disagree on this, and for several reasons:

I know a few takoon team riders who used this board. They all snap. The construction is too light and the board is too thin. Definitely not adapted for freestyle strapless despite its program.

Also, the "flax biotek" is pure marketing. There is one sheet of flax fiber, so thin it's transparent at places. The construction is a classic Epoxy + Glass Fiber stratification.

If you're looking for true eco-friendly boards, check out NOTOX: https://www.notoxkiteboarding.com/ (the kiteboarding website is in French only but you can find more info on their surfboards website: http://www.notox.fr/en/fair-boards/ )

That's where Takoon and a few other took their inspiration, sadly they only retained the marketing side of it...


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