Forum for kitesurfers
-
LetsFlyaKite
- Very Frequent Poster
- Posts: 615
- Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:55 pm
- Style: Aggressive
- Gear: Nothing Yet
- Brand Affiliation: None
- Location: Hawaii
-
Has thanked:
0
-
Been thanked:
0
Postby LetsFlyaKite » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:20 am
Don't listen to anyone on here.
If you feel inconfident about kiting, then you should probably take another lesson. The fact that you don't even know weather you should take another lesson or buy more gear is a dead giveaway that you are inconfident.
If you feel confident, then buy more gear.
Don't let someone on the internet tell you what's best for you, your probably a grown man that's knows what's best for yourself. Go out and do it.
-
deniska
- Very Frequent Poster
- Posts: 978
- Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:40 pm
- Local Beach: Plumb Beach
- Favorite Beaches: Cabarete
- Gear: FS, Core
- Brand Affiliation: None
-
Has thanked:
35 times
-
Been thanked:
108 times
Postby deniska » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:30 am
Kau pi kite tarifa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:09 pm
As an instructor I want to see that students can keep themself AND the other water/beach users safe before I will advise you to practise alone.
This means that your kite should not crash anymore. Even when you make a mistake in your waterstarts or riding. Your kite should stay dry.
You should also be able to control your riding speed and come to a controlled stop. If your speed is not under control yet, then you are a danger to other people on the water...
Obviously a self rescue also needs to be in your skill set.
"This means that your kite should not crash anymore. Even when you make a mistake in your waterstarts or riding. Your kite should stay dry."
shit, I think I need some lessons after 7 years of kiting...
I keep crashing the kite while riding..
-
BigZ
- Medium Poster
- Posts: 119
- Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:39 am
- Local Beach: Central California Coast
- Favorite Beaches: Jalama Beach
- Style: Surf
- Gear: Wave kites,
Surfboards, surfboards, and more surfboards ...
Did I say surfboards ?
- Brand Affiliation: None
- Location: California, USA
-
Has thanked:
0
-
Been thanked:
3 times
Postby BigZ » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:13 am
deniska wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:30 am
Kau pi kite tarifa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:09 pm
As an instructor I want to see that students can keep themself AND the other water/beach users safe before I will advise you to practise alone.
This means that your kite should not crash anymore. Even when you make a mistake in your waterstarts or riding. Your kite should stay dry.
You should also be able to control your riding speed and come to a controlled stop. If your speed is not under control yet, then you are a danger to other people on the water...
Obviously a self rescue also needs to be in your skill set.
"This means that your kite should not crash anymore. Even when you make a mistake in your waterstarts or riding. Your kite should stay dry."
shit, I think I need some lessons after 7 years of kiting...
I keep crashing the kite while riding..
+1
-
Jelle_vw
- Medium Poster
- Posts: 95
- Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:53 pm
- Kiting since: 2008
- Weight: 76
- Local Beach: Zandmotor (Netherlands)
- Favorite Beaches: Slufter (Netherlands)
- Style: Freeride / Oldskool
- Gear: Ozone & Shinn
- Brand Affiliation: None
-
Has thanked:
1 time
-
Been thanked:
5 times
Postby Jelle_vw » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:51 am
LetsFlyaKite wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:20 am
Don't listen to anyone on here.
If you feel inconfident about kiting, then you should probably take another lesson. The fact that you don't even know weather you should take another lesson or buy more gear is a dead giveaway that you are inconfident.
If you feel confident, then buy more gear.
Don't let someone on the internet tell you what's best for you, your probably a grown man that's knows what's best for yourself. Go out and do it.
I consider asking for advice as a wise thing to do.
@OP, just go man!
-
Kau pi kite tarifa
- Rare Poster
- Posts: 35
- Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 9:38 pm
- Local Beach: Tarifa, Sal and Holland
- Favorite Beaches: Tarifa!
- Style: Wave and hooked jumps
- Gear: Zian kites
- Brand Affiliation: Kiteschool owner using zian kites.
-
Has thanked:
0
-
Been thanked:
2 times
Postby Kau pi kite tarifa » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:09 am
BigZ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:13 am
deniska wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:30 am
"This means that your kite should not crash anymore. Even when you make a mistake in your waterstarts or riding. Your kite should stay dry."
shit, I think I need some lessons after 7 years of kiting...
I keep crashing the kite while riding..
+1
How do you crash your kite while riding?
Would you give somebody a driving license if he is not able to drive his car without crashing?
Clearly there are exceptions to be made when you are doing advanced manoeuvres (wave riding, tricks, jumps, ect)
But really with waterstarts and riding you should be able to keep your kite dry. Most of my students can do that after about 10 to 14 hours of private lessons.
If you can't do it, it means you are not able yet to ride close to other people. So you need a huge empty spot. Or you are posing a danger to your fellow beach users.
-
Kau pi kite tarifa
- Rare Poster
- Posts: 35
- Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 9:38 pm
- Local Beach: Tarifa, Sal and Holland
- Favorite Beaches: Tarifa!
- Style: Wave and hooked jumps
- Gear: Zian kites
- Brand Affiliation: Kiteschool owner using zian kites.
-
Has thanked:
0
-
Been thanked:
2 times
Postby Kau pi kite tarifa » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:21 am
Jelle_vw wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:29 pm
Kau pi kite tarifa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:09 pm
Obviously a self rescue also needs to be in your skill set.
I don't agree with this and would not recommend practising it when you are a beginner. I consider floating around your lines trying to roll up your bar and reach your kite as a risk. Could get caught by the lines and the kite could get powered up. Learn the theory but at first choose a safe spot and make sure others are there that can rescue you if needed.
I prefer to rely on my own skills to stay safe. Not on others. Maybe no one will see you, maybe the other kitesurfers do not have the knowledge to bring you and your gear safely to the beach, maybe the engine of the rescue boat has a problem.
Choosing a safe spot is definitely a good start
If done correctly a self rescue is not dangerous. Learn the correct way to grab your lines and roll up the bar.
You need to first practise this in light winds or with an instructor in the water to keep you safe.
-
t3rse
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 464
- Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:15 pm
- Local Beach: Folly
- Gear: RRD Obsession/Core XR/Cab FX
- Brand Affiliation: None
- Location: Charleston, SC
-
Has thanked:
0
-
Been thanked:
0
Postby t3rse » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:46 pm
Kau pi kite tarifa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:09 am
BigZ wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:13 am
deniska wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:30 am
"This means that your kite should not crash anymore. Even when you make a mistake in your waterstarts or riding. Your kite should stay dry."
shit, I think I need some lessons after 7 years of kiting...
I keep crashing the kite while riding..
+1
How do you crash your kite while riding?
Would you give somebody a driving license if he is not able to drive his car without crashing?
Clearly there are exceptions to be made when you are doing advanced manoeuvres (wave riding, tricks, jumps, ect)
But really with waterstarts and riding you should be able to keep your kite dry. Most of my students can do that after about 10 to 14 hours of private lessons.
If you can't do it, it means you are not able yet to ride close to other people. So you need a huge empty spot. Or you are posing a danger to your fellow beach users.
There is a relatively competent bloke here who've I've seen tomahawk his kite twice on the beach trying to water start in onshore winds. There is another fella who can't jump worth a shit but who can get upwind just fine that tomahawk'd his rig while walking down the beach. I'm not making excuses for them, and it irritates the shit out of me, but just saying...
-
jeromeL
- Very Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1114
- Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:22 pm
- Local Beach: Longisland NY
- Style: freestyle
- Gear: Fone Bandit 2014 12m^2, 2015 9, 2015 7, 2015 14
Best GP 2015 9m
Star Sirius V2 12m
Nobile Fity/50 138cm
Naish Apex bindings.
Zeeko Green and White + Shinn El Stubbo
- Brand Affiliation: None
- Location: Longisland, NY, USA
-
Has thanked:
0
-
Been thanked:
2 times
-
Contact:
Postby jeromeL » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:11 pm
I would say it's spot and conditions dependent.
If you have a safe spot with no obstacle, not too crowded and friends to babysit you, then you can buy gear and practice. Make sure to talk to your buddies and ask where to kite safely and stay out of the way of others. Also don't go out in crazy conditions, when you take lessons instructor knows which spot and conditions are safe for beginner, when you go out with your friends you might try something that's not right for your level...
I would do a full self rescue by yourself at least once though. Going over it with instructor isn't enough, you have got to do it by yourself to become proficient at it.
-
LetsFlyaKite
- Very Frequent Poster
- Posts: 615
- Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:55 pm
- Style: Aggressive
- Gear: Nothing Yet
- Brand Affiliation: None
- Location: Hawaii
-
Has thanked:
0
-
Been thanked:
0
Postby LetsFlyaKite » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:35 pm
Jelle_vw wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:51 am
LetsFlyaKite wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:20 am
Don't listen to anyone on here.
If you feel inconfident about kiting, then you should probably take another lesson. The fact that you don't even know weather you should take another lesson or buy more gear is a dead giveaway that you are inconfident.
If you feel confident, then buy more gear.
Don't let someone on the internet tell you what's best for you, your probably a grown man that's knows what's best for yourself. Go out and do it.
I consider asking for advice as a wise thing to do.
For a foolish man who doesn't know his own limitations.
You forgot to write that at the end.
You're welcome...
-
Bille
- Very Frequent Poster
- Posts: 4026
- Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:37 pm
- Local Beach: Lake Mohave
- Gear: Ozone Edge
- Brand Affiliation: Barz Optics
Jaybar Dynabar V7
-
Has thanked:
252 times
-
Been thanked:
189 times
Postby Bille » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:41 am
LetsFlyaKite wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:35 pm
Jelle_vw wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:51 am
LetsFlyaKite wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:20 am
Don't listen to anyone on here.
...
I consider asking for advice as a wise thing to do.
For a foolish man who doesn't know his own limitations.
You forgot to write that at the end.
You're welcome...
Tone down the criticism, toward others ; and you'll probably find that others
will do the same to you.
Bille
Return to “Kitesurfing”
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Baidu [Spider], Brent NKB, ChielSter, Chriz76, Deaimel, eloico, Exal, Google [Bot], Hessel, hookedcook, i_love_storm, jsanzperez, suisd12, tilmann, Vivo3d, Windigo1, wowkitesurf and 476 guests