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Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:55 pm
by shutupjoy
Hi I just got the new 2018 control bar of Cabrinha (I spoilt with a new fx) and I have a single ring in the chicken loop.
I my north control bar I have 2 rings connected togeter for Suicide mode.
How can I do unhook with the Cabrinha controll bar ?! I have only one ring.

Attached pic of the chicken-loop:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2073/ ... 1502466648

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:07 pm
by NorCalNomad
You could try hooking your leash carabiner into the chicken loop kind of like how the North ring lets you.
CaB_Suicide.jpg
You just have to make sure it's not a big carabiner since if it's too big it has the danger of rotating over and unclipping itself

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:49 pm
by dylan*
If the metal piece is just larksheaded onto the safety line, you could just remove it and replace with another (bigger) ring. Slingshot also sells their CSS ring/webbing for $5 that works well: https://www.amazon.com/Slingshot-Kitebo ... B01HHEG708

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:59 am
by edt
You can't ride those bars suicide well "half suicide" I guess because the QR still work.. never clip directly around chicken loop as in above photo as carabiner can and will eventually snag on spreader hook in which case the only way to release the kite is to cut lines or remove your harness. So that's a bad way to rig suicide. Always use some sort of ring like that north bar, it doesn't have to be that figure 8 it can just be an O-ring which is big enough to slip around to the chicken loop so you clip on to the O-ring. You can also clip your carabiner above the chicken loop for "full suicide" or old fashioned suicide if you like, then the QR won't work at all, and you have to rely on a full release if you want to dump the kite.

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:38 pm
by edt
By the way one way to convert this to a suicide bar is to buy a quick chain link like this:

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link the chain around both your quick release o-ring and the chicken loop. It then be exactly like your north figure 8 only part of the figure 8 will be this quick chain link. Make sure you get a big enough size. It has to be slightly bigger than the actual chicken loop because at the end of the loop there's this metal dongle that can catch on your link.

If you do it this way (instead of just snapping a big carabiner around both the chicken loop and the quick release o-ring) the carabiner won't snag on your spreader hook.

Another way to do it is to cut open the threads on your quick release and replace it with a normal figure 8 that will fit around the chicken loop and sew it back into place. That way is a bit neater but requires sewing with a sewing awl.

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:25 am
by Slappysan
edt wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:59 am
never clip directly around chicken loop as in above photo as carabiner can and will eventually snag on spreader hook in which case the only way to release the kite is to cut lines or remove your harness. So that's a bad way to rig suicide.
+1 for this advice. I've had it happen and it's scary as hell. Even worse is that once the spreader bar is inside the clip it's stuffed so full you can't open it to get it out. I had to go in to shore to finally pry it loose, couldn't do it while riding or in the water.

Never clip your leash around your CL like that. Kite companies that expect you to do that please take note it's not safe at all.

Switch sells a proper ring for $1.50 but they want like $20 shipping http://switchkites.com/leashattachment.html

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:31 pm
by blue_rain
would this be the right setup? red=kind of ring. blue leash carabiner

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:33 pm
by Slappysan
Almost, keep your leash clipped to the metal ring though.

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:22 pm
by blue_rain
Almost, keep your leash clipped to the metal ring though.
I do not understand

Re: Cabrinha control bar 2018- how to setup Suicide mode

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:49 pm
by edt
That works. I've run it a few times. You can clip into the red thing or clip on to the o-ring as suggested by slappysan. You need to size the red loop properly so it doesn't wrap around your spreader hook.