Bartolo wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:25 pm
I don't understand. Why would you want lot of pull in the loop for a wave kite?
Cause sometimes an experienced wave rider needs that extra pull to get into a wave.
Starsky wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:52 pm
Sure thing macho man!
Gutless loops can be awesome fun.
I use a pivot turning kite on snow when its too gusty to unhook and pussy loop it all over the place. Pretty sweet to controllably stall yourself out 8 feet up, mid back roll transition over a specific bit of good snow with a predictably gutless loop. Gut wrenching yank on hard ground or tough conditions is not as much fun.
Wave and boost are kinda mutually exclusive in dedicated kites, but allrounders are amazing and do both really well while making everything a little easier.
Yeah well most allrounders have some kind of pull when they loop, most pivoters (OR Flite, Naish Pivot) will barely have any pull. This can be fun for begginer loopers learning how to loop, which I wish I had one when I was beggining. But inside a wave, you definitely want something that pulls. If you're ever stuck in a bad situation that you can't get out of, or if your kite is stalling and you need some power. Then a pivot turning kite is not going to cut it.
And yeah, I see your point about snow and land with pivot turning kites. But we're talking about water, we're talking about waves. That's why the name of this thread has waves written on it. But I see your point, and if I ever get out on the snow I'll be sure to try it.
tautologies wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:25 pm
Hhmmm, but you can slow the kite down. Having the option to turn is fast doesn't mean you have to. I have tons of fun doing loops that I find pulls plenty. I am obviously not looking for the torch kind of pull, but something that pull be around and have me land with some speed on regular hand drag backrolls or front roll transitions. What I like is something that is controllable, gives good feedback and doesn't kill me.
Then keep flying your kite then. I know whenever I throw in a trick with a loop I like to have a nice little yank, that yank gives me speed as it completes the loop. It can be more fun and challenging the better you get and the more faster turning your kite gets.