Thank you Dwight, this is really good information. I had the same reservations about the Boxer but it is great to know that they have not overdone bombproofing the kite and that if flies light and nice.
Thank you Dwight, this is really good information. I had the same reservations about the Boxer but it is great to know that they have not overdone bombproofing the kite and that if flies light and nice.
I think your points are important and the theoretical possibility of bias should be disclosed. I always look at a poster's "brand affiliation" when considering their opinions.stenner wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:18 pmPlease know that Herbert is at the very least an unofficial spokesman for BRM and is closely associated with the brand and owner. Dwight is now a Naish dealer. Not saying their comments and opinions are wrong or right, just saying they are both closely associated with the brands they are speaking about. Maybe everyone already knows this but I think it doesn't hurt to put it out there again. Also, I think in instances like this it's good practice for the author to clearly state their relationship with the brand. Again, not bashing, just saying.
Which year Solo? I heard the newer ones are better? Though probably still heavier than an ultra.abel wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:02 amI own a 12m Solo (2.8 kg) and a 12m Ultra (2.4 kg).
Those 400 g, structure and shape, make a significant perceivable difference.
Since I had the Ultra after the Solo, I almost forgot the frequent swim in sessions that I had with the Solo (in similar <10 knots conditions).
It is quite easy for me to compare because there is an area in front of the buildings named by the locals the "Black hole", where the Solo always dropped no matter what I did.
In contrast, many times I managed to maneuver the Ultra in that same Black hole and keep it back in the air, even the kite was almost touching the water.
My personal non biased (I hope ) experience.
I had Solo 12 V2 and now V3 , same weight and can't feel any significant difference.gbrungra wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:33 amWhich year Solo? I heard the newer ones are better? Though probably still heavier than an ultra.abel wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:02 amI own a 12m Solo (2.8 kg) and a 12m Ultra (2.4 kg).
Those 400 g, structure and shape, make a significant perceivable difference.
Since I had the Ultra after the Solo, I almost forgot the frequent swim in sessions that I had with the Solo (in similar <10 knots conditions).
It is quite easy for me to compare because there is an area in front of the buildings named by the locals the "Black hole", where the Solo always dropped no matter what I did.
In contrast, many times I managed to maneuver the Ultra in that same Black hole and keep it back in the air, even the kite was almost touching the water.
My personal non biased (I hope ) experience.
This topic seems like it needs a shared google spreadsheet of actual weights...