Flyboy wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:09 pm
Your point is taken, however, beyond that it seems to me that the parameters in kite design are limited. There are only so many elements that can be tweaked one way or another. Tweaking in one direction will improve certain characteristics ... but at the expense of other characteristics. So ... how about defining what those characteristics are to start with?
Boost (for "freeriding")
Are there other ones that should be included?
I use Cabos. I would characterize them this way:
Poor low end
Good high end
Light bar pressure
Fast turning speed
I don't have much experience with other wave kites, but I suspect that other models will favour one characteristic over another. So Neos, for example, would have better low end, worse high end, heavier bar pressure, similar drift, slower turning speed & better boost.
My point is that characteristics without a comparison are useless. You can get characteristics from most brands marketing pages but not a kite to kite comparison. One needs more than one data point to compare points but someone has to know both of the values.
You fly Cabos, GREAT! So do I. I have the 5,7,8,9,11m v3 Cabos. We have a set of data points to relate with. If you tell me that an Ozone Reo v4 is faster than the Cabo v3, I know what you consider "faster than Cabo". If you tell me the Cabo drifts better, the Reo has better low end, etc, I can relate. If two more people post the same, there are logical reasons for any Cabo user to understand what to expect. Same goes with any other aspect you mentioned, low/high end, pressure, drift, boost.
An earlier post mentioned Neos and SSTs both being slow. Because I own a 2016 12m and 10m SST's, I KNOW how slow they are. When someone mentioned that the Neos are also slow as they mentioned that they fly an SST, I have a reference point to compare to. I can and have made similar comparisons between Cabo/SST. Don't remember if the drift between Neo and SST was mentioned, would be interested.
When someone is to make an educated guess on what to buy sight unseen, they could read through every thread, find every comparison between kite to kite references and then make the best choice because the most number of kite to kite comparison data points summed up one kite as the fastest, lightest, driftiest, boostiest or whatever attribute they're looking for. Otherwise there's a bunch of fanbois, brands and the "this is my only kite and it's so awesome!" replies to try it.
Read through the last few pages, people are just throwing out kite brands/names.
The OP is basically left with the choice to try any kite with no real data as to why. Most people never say what they've flown and why they think the kite they mention is better than something else.