Rip NKB
Tons of fun, and an actual sense of extreme accomplishment compared to kiteboarding.
Not likely. I really do not have a favorite brand or care to use any specific brand beyond what I know about the past and current situation with a brand such as:flipper231 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:23 pmOk and when times comes to change your gear, you will buy Best whit their older designs or you will move to Eleveight? Same development team as The Best kites you like or you can buy the TS and Roca for very cheap by the way
I disagree with everything you said.jumptheshark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:29 pmIm an ex windsurfer and think your blowing it out of proportion. If your comparing the early stages, of a big floaty windsurfer where you walk around the mast to tack, they are not really that different in entry level difficulty. Kiting might be a little harder at that point. To gybe a shortboard windsurfing is not a whole lot harder than to gybe a surfboard well. To ride waves..... might be harder on a windsurfer, but for the same wind direction and swell, it gets pretty close. Kiting just makes lesser conditions better, and I'd say the like of Ian and Rebstock can make more fun out of big gnarly slop than anyone on a pole board.
Actual freestyle, Flippy low amplitude stuff on a windsurfer can't hold a candle to the good kiteboard freestyle.
A nice 40 ft backloop at pozo is about the same as a full powered megaloop in Cape Town.
Do kiters do displacement kiting (on a huge floaty board) when they first get in the water??? NO! We all immediately moved onto planing right out of the gate. And there is virtually no sub-planing in kiteboarding. Plane or sink, no in-between. You could almost say, "one less skill to learn in kiteboarding". But that would ignore the likely hundreds of steps to jibe, planing jibe, pivot jibe, shortboard tack, sinker board light wind tack, displacement tack, steering with the sail (leaning forward vs aft) steering with the rail (at planing speeds), sideloading the fin, raking back the mast, hiking out, and.....I just can't go on. NONE OF THESE steps are mirrored in kiteboarding. In fact, the first step in kiteboarding progression is the waterstart - which is AFTER all the steps I just mentioned for beginner windsurfers.jumptheshark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:29 pmIf your comparing the early stages, of a big floaty windsurfer where you walk around the mast to tack, they are not really that different in entry level difficulty.
Your statement is total BS when comparing it like this - Planing jibe shortboard windsurfer vs planing jibe strapped kiteboard. NO WAY IS IT EASIER TO JIBE A WINDSURFER. Sorry for the strong words, but you are flat out wrong within my my stated comparison criteria above.jumptheshark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:29 pmTo gybe a shortboard windsurfing is not a whole lot harder than to gybe a surfboard well.
Again, NO FRICKIN WAY! - You CAN EASILY take someone's significant other who is just kiting because their partner is into it, and put them in the waves on the ocean with a kite. YOU COULD NEVER DO THAT WITH A WINDSURFER!!!jumptheshark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:29 pmTo ride waves..... might be harder on a windsurfer, but for the same wind direction and swell, it gets pretty close.
I have never seen someone in person clear over 20ft on a windsurfer of total height. How many years of windsurfing skill building does it take to get a backloop? And the 40ft thing must be a typo. That is Dale Cook stuff there. And I only know one Dale Cook, and that is only from Youtube, though I have sailed within a mile or two of him on occasion.jumptheshark wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:29 pmA nice 40 ft backloop at pozo is about the same as a full powered megaloop in Cape Town.
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