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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby Kitebugs » Thu May 03, 2018 8:54 pm

seems pretty clear to me now the best for our sport and us riders/industry is to unite inside IFKO.
An independent federation for an unique sport that will be even bigger with Winter and Summer Olympics.
Great vision
Sailing path is a clear rubish dump... delaying kiters for years

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby longwhitecloud » Sat May 05, 2018 1:31 am

if you are a kitesurfer/ kiteboarder

you probably want to listen to this podcast!

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/wwwsti ... e/51586955

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby Toby » Sat May 05, 2018 3:08 am

Sailing clearly stopped us for Rio...voting for the windsurfers instead...
Shows how important we are for them...

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby tautologies » Sat May 05, 2018 3:30 am

knotwindy wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:36 am
Toby wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:24 am
That's what I meant
Yea, pretty much the same thing....
Yup.


In other news, what a mess this whole thing is. Id like an organixation that can help speak on behalf of kiters and rally where needed, but apart from that all the moaning is just dumb.

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby longwhitecloud » Sat May 05, 2018 4:02 am

Yes and world sailing wouldnt accept kiters could hold a sailing speed record either as they said kiting wasnt sailing..after a kiter beat a sailors top speed.. .lol you see how $$$ corrupts ..

if you got the time to listen to it, it is very interesting. in pre internet days we would never get to know any of this stuff.

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby Tiago1973 » Sat May 05, 2018 7:55 am

Toby wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 3:08 am
Sailing clearly stopped us for Rio...voting for the windsurfers instead...
Shows how important we are for them...
It was the same sailing that place us there in the first place

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby Toby » Sat May 05, 2018 11:34 am

And? What happened? Tell us details on how this went down please for the ones who don't know!

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby Tiago1973 » Sat May 05, 2018 12:37 pm

Toby wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 11:34 am
And? What happened? Tell us details on how this went down please for the ones who don't know!
I'll leave the details to you, I'm no one

A higher jurisdiction revert back the initial decision

In fairness the sport was not ready for olympic status so soon
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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby longwhitecloud » Sat May 05, 2018 12:54 pm

ok here it is
"Note that at the November Conference 2008, ISAF clarified that a kite-powered craft cannot be recognised as the holder of The World Sailing Speed Record."

ISAF is World Sailing. Straight from the horses mouth.

But when they saw $$ and a potential way to increase one of the lowest viewed olympic sports (7th from bottom), hey lets steal kiting... we just need to go back on what we said and use olympic hype to basically hoodwink kiters into supporting us with all these false promises.

This statement from 2008 is going to bite them in the ass in court, big time. You could not get more damning evidence.

Some of us have been into kiting for 20 years+ now, we know the exact history of our sport and it's pioneers. they may be able to pull the wool over the eyes of some of those that do not know the history having not kited for so long.. but we can educate.

"Kiting is not a sailing sport" like isaf ( now world sailing) said. We are kite powered.

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Re: Kitesurfing Inside World Sailing is Illegal

Postby james » Sat May 05, 2018 2:05 pm

And that statement was retracted and kites WERE eligeble to hold the sailing speed record, they did successfully until sail rocket smashed the record out of site.

Quoting an extinct organisation that actually DID recognise kitesurfing as legitimate record holders is somewhat daft.

It’s like saying we should be cool with smoking while pregnant because it was ok back in the day.

Times change, rules change.

At least be current with the evidence not some shit that was successfully overturned by the IKA...

Where were the IFKO when speed sailers were being told no?


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