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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:18 pm

BBC - That's a beauty :rollgrin:

Grand Solar Minimum will effect your business if anything. It will bring longer colder winters and stormier weather, but also stronger winds.

Tariffs will never include textiles or even boards, this is not what the fight is about. There will be minimum effect even on products included in tariffs as China will try to keep the prices down. So far they devalue their currency which is the end of their dream of replacing US $ as a world reserve currency with yuan. After that they will have to look at efficiencies and productivity but sooner or later they will buckle under pressure. There is no going back even under new US administration.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:39 pm

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Reconstruction of summertime July-August temperatures in Scotland over the past 800 years, based on tree rings. Source: https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 016-3478-8

Hoping to kite Tiree before 1800's happens again.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby Matteo V » Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:23 pm

CaptainCore wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:24 am
And if you think it doesn't matter, this summer here in supposedly cold foggy and windy England, saw some kite suppliers saying their business was 60% down according to my pal who runs iksurf magazine, this thanks to the most windless and hottest summer on record. Even our own sales stalled for the first time in the four years since we re-engaged after the Slingshot drama, this August did not exceed last August and numbers were down.

UK figures are unlikely to affect world kite prices, but as we all know, it's a global village, numbers are not exactly soaring away given the maturity of the market, so any decline in numbers equals price hikes which none of us want. Kite prices have gone beyond the point that any of us feel really comfortable about and you only have to look at what happened with windsurfing business, higher prices equals fewer people equals even higher prices. That's without considering the liklihood of a tariff war and its effect on us.

So all in all, a gloomy outlook without wishing to further ruin your monday morning too much. :-?
Just wanted to save this from some COREporate mandated editing. Good info as used kites may be coming down with more kites on the market and less buyers. Also watch for closeouts on brands that have never had closeouts before.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby CaptainCore » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:07 pm

Matteo V wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:23 pm


Just wanted to save this from some COREporate mandated editing. Good info as used kites may be coming down with more kites on the market and less buyers. Also watch for closeouts on brands that have never had closeouts before.
Doesn't work like that I'm afraid, all that happens is less get built by all brands so the OEM builders with fixed overheads and in some cases increased material and even labour costs, put up the unit cost. We need a constant flow of entry level participants to hopefully outweigh the wastage from those that move on. As to discounting on a large scale I think it unlikely that Cabrinha under their new financial constraints will be building much to close out and I'm fairly sure North/Duo will have had a chill wind blow through with all their marketing spend, certainly here in the UK which was a big market for them and at this time I've no idea what the European market has been like this year but chances are if we're down up to 60 percent it can't have been good for them, since they are the clear market leader, not a good year to decide to change brand name. Nothing marketing spend can do to overcome the ravages of a bad weather season, ask the ski/snowboard industry.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 pm

Nobel in economics awarded to climate bedwetting :rollgrin:

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William Nordhaus originated the idea of a 2C global warming limit but last year cast doubt on our ability to reach it.

You tell me, what the hell does it mean 2C limit over the preindustrial era while looking at the temp graph I just posted? You give this genius a Nobel prize?

Angela Merkel"s science adviser says they just make this stuff up as they go along.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 97-8.html

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby SimonP » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:29 pm

marlboroughman wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 pm
You tell me, what the hell does it mean 2C limit over the preindustrial era while looking at the temp graph I just posted? You give this genius a Nobel prize?
Your temperature graph was from a small number of locations in Scotland and of summer temperatures only. Globally, temperatures are rising. Nobody denies this.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby wedge » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:51 am

marlboroughman wrote:BBC - That's a beauty
The thing is, it's not the BBC. It's the U.N. It's based on more than 6,000 scientific references and contributions from thousands of experts and government researchers from around the world. And it's being reported by every reputable news organization in the world.

https://www.google.com/search?q=un+clim ... 33&bih=815

Yet you ask everyone to reject all of that, and the overwhelming body of scientific evidence, AND our own day to day experiences in favor of the fringy, cherry picked little graphs you been posting for years now?

I mean feel free to disagree with the predictions, even though you're apparently not a scientist or a particularly keen observer of what's outside your window, or prowl the internet for alternate facts, or even go with the standard "it's not proven MAN MADE warming". But common sense says pumping millions of tonnes of shit into the atmosphere every day is going to have negative consequences. Maybe not for you depending on your age, but certainly for future generations. And waving off common sense in favor of grand conspiracy theories makes you sound like a 4Chan QAnon freak... Or are you?

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:52 am

SimonP wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:29 pm
Your temperature graph was from a small number of locations in Scotland and of summer temperatures only. Globally, temperatures are rising. Nobody denies this.
I do, based on real ice core research.
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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:00 am

wedge wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:51 am
you're apparently not a scientist or a particularly keen observer of what's outside your window
At least I still observe what's outside my window and you do not even bother to do that. I've been also observing the water level at different locations around the world for the past 30 yrs. So what prediction of that UN army of bureaucrats actually came trough for you in the past 30 yrs? Name one.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby Pemba » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:42 am

marlboroughman wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 pm
You tell me, what the hell does it mean 2C limit over the preindustrial era while looking at the temp graph I just posted? You give this genius a Nobel prize?
As mentioned before this graph represents a temperature anomaly in a small area and only for a few months per year. I think the 2C applies to a global annual average. But I think If you'd look at the graph properly you'd see that an average increase of 2C would mean a whole lot.


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