AdroVempo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:05 pm
I still can't believe water cannot seep into the kite openings making it un-relaunchable.
Flysurfer kites are very water proof!
and
Water seeping into a foil with well designed drainage(flysurfer) is far far from un-relaunchable. You can fill the kite with more water than you could ever possibly believe and if part of it will still fly ,as in stand off the water, then it will relaunch. It is merely a skill to learn.
AdroVempo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:10 am
1. 15mt vs 18 mt?. I weigh 190+ lbs. In-land Lakes here do not have consistent winds. So lightwind suddenly picks up to higher gusts. I usually hear foils are more powerful than their same-size LEI equivalents. I noticed that myself, while snowkiting this winter. A 5m foil kite was enough to pull me rapidly on frozen lake. If I was to get a LEI kite, it would have been 17m size. (please suggest between 15 or 18 mt for Flysurfer Soul).
21m lol. Depends on quiver, 15+21 or 12+18. And riding style, With hydrofoil 15m or 18m should be big enough, anything else then 21m. Ice is completely different than snow and water. If you want to jump over hard surfaces big kites are much safer, small kites will drop and kill you in a blink. You need to realize with foils, because they fly in much less wind than LEIs you can make use of ones much bigger and more powerful. Below 10knots 21m is much better than 18m. Unless hydrofoil or good surfboard, but then below 5-7knots 21m is still better.
AdroVempo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:10 am
2. Will either of the above size Souls work with the following bar+lines setup? :
"2017 Cabrinha 1X Fixed Length Fireball TrimLite Control Bar (52cm bar width)". You might ask why I cannot get a separate bar, but I sooo like the Fireball system (it is not Chicken Loop).
The reason I ask about bar compatibility is because of 2 factors:-
a). High Y vs Low V, and
b). 52 cm Bar width for larger kites.
Just about any bar can work with any kite. That said foils are more than a little different than LEIs and they really have specific bar requirements to enjoy them the most. The problems you have are 52cm is too small for a large foil kite, you need 60 to 65cm. Cabrinha plastic depower rope cover does not allow sheeting while turning, foils need this. The trimmer and sheet range setup is not really right for Foil kites. You need thick rear leaders to relaunch and manage the kite. Also not least do you value your time? and want to enjoy your life and understand and enjoy one of the biggest benefits of foil kites? You then need a bar permanently attached to and for each foil you own. Trust me on this one (as Deadpool would say), this is a magic thing of foil kites. Not doing this you will miss one of THEE most best factors of owning and using a foil. I can not describe the shittfest waste of time running and connecting lines is, having them gather twists that perpetuate into tangles. I can launch onto the water kite from bag in 30seconds (I DO NOT LIE!). How the f*** people can spend 10minutes fucking with lines why why! more fucking why!?!
Oh and Low V 100%, as in so you can uninvert your lines while flying the kite LOW V. Yes uninvert while flying.
But bars are expensive? No they are not, some carbon bar and rope, done. Well almost
lol.
downunder wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:10 pm
To be fair, it Looks quite slow being 12m only and on 50cm bar.
Who needs a fast turning kite?
Wakestyle? NO
Airstyle? NO
Surfstyle? NO
Megaloops? NO
Gaystyle? maybe
Kookstyle? Definitely
Pretending to ride waves on them, near them, on flat water, in the grass or a bath tub? ding ding ding 100% we have a winner.
oh and revolution kites are awesome, but I ain't riding with one ever!
downunder wrote: ↑Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:10 pm
Once is collapsed, a split sec is needed to 'bow tie' it. The End.
No
downunder wrote: ↑Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:49 pm
But think of this, if that well sealed what will happen when crashed on a LE? Something must give away tho. Sure, the vent will open, but again how if that well sealed ?
Depends on the size of the kite, bigger are always slower and more tolerant to crashes. The cell walls take the brunt of the force. If they are elastic then they can take abuse, if not then rip. The buttvents are apparently quite effective, special uses of the sock on flysurfers have been used to help them open more easy in crashes to prevent damage. Pansh use Magnetic buttholes that open easy on crash and can reseal, seems to do something.
downunder wrote: ↑Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:48 pm
the slack lines are the enemy
Not mine, they are my friend
. Slack lines and surfing is like love.