This is good advice. Whatever fits you best is best. I’m also a fan of hardshell harnesses.POACHER wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:34 pmSo the first thing everyone here (myself included) will tell you is to go try them on. Don't go by what someone says is "the ultimate" harness because it really comes down to fit. Everyone's body is shaped really differently, so hard to go based off of some random net suggestions.....
However, I have some experience with both companies' harnesses. I had a Pro Limit Predator for a couple of years (liked it!), and followed it up with the Pro Limit Kite Waist Pro (liked it better) for another year. I really am a fan of Pro Limits harnesses. They just seem to really hold up well and fit my average/athletic 5'11" and 190 lbs frame well (size Medium) I like the Fat Bar entry/exit system too. Easy on/off. The straps they used are tube webbing and they never frayed, broke or prematurely gave me any issues.
Since then I've tried a few of the hardshell harnesses. I think these are even more important to try on in person to find fit. The 2017 Ride Engine Carbon I bought just didn't work with my back shape well, and the strap system wasn't really holding up so after a few months it was punted. I'm currently using a Mystic Majestic X and I love it. Less curve to it's lumbar so it doesn't create a pressure point on me. It also uses a quick release entry/exist with double webbing straps that are holding up great after a year of use. It's also very light and so far durable.
So this last winter, a friend of mine who has the same Pro Limit Kite Waist Pro (M) asked me if he could try my Mystic. So we swapped and went out for a 30 min. session. After the session, I noticed my ribs were a little chaffed and quite sore. I was surprised at just how different the same harness I used to own fit me so drastically from the Mystic. I couldn't wait to get back to my MX. (that friend recently just bought the same harness as well, so he too was sold.)
Not a dig at Pro Limit, I think the difference was more in the traditional harness vs. hardshell and I'll never go back to a standard harness again. I'd love to try a Pro Limit Vapor hardshell harness sometime, but they're just hard to find in the States.
If I was new to kiting I would look at the standard Majestic hardshell and not pay the premium for the X carbon. If you have a chance try a Pro Limit Vapor too. I think the hardshell harness is worth the extra $$$.
In the end, go for what FITS!
Thank you so much for the advice, appreciate it a lot! I wanted to buy one online, but I guess i'll head out to a shop in order to try them onPOACHER wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:34 pmSo the first thing everyone here (myself included) will tell you is to go try them on. Don't go by what someone says is "the ultimate" harness because it really comes down to fit. Everyone's body is shaped really differently, so hard to go based off of some random net suggestions.....
However, I have some experience with both companies' harnesses. I had a Pro Limit Predator for a couple of years (liked it!), and followed it up with the Pro Limit Kite Waist Pro (liked it better) for another year. I really am a fan of Pro Limits harnesses. They just seem to really hold up well and fit my average/athletic 5'11" and 190 lbs frame well (size Medium) I like the Fat Bar entry/exit system too. Easy on/off. The straps they used are tube webbing and they never frayed, broke or prematurely gave me any issues.
Since then I've tried a few of the hardshell harnesses. I think these are even more important to try on in person to find fit. The 2017 Ride Engine Carbon I bought just didn't work with my back shape well, and the strap system wasn't really holding up so after a few months it was punted. I'm currently using a Mystic Majestic X and I love it. Less curve to it's lumbar so it doesn't create a pressure point on me. It also uses a quick release entry/exist with double webbing straps that are holding up great after a year of use. It's also very light and so far durable.
So this last winter, a friend of mine who has the same Pro Limit Kite Waist Pro (M) asked me if he could try my Mystic. So we swapped and went out for a 30 min. session. After the session, I noticed my ribs were a little chaffed and quite sore. I was surprised at just how different the same harness I used to own fit me so drastically from the Mystic. I couldn't wait to get back to my MX. (that friend recently just bought the same harness as well, so he too was sold.)
Not a dig at Pro Limit, I think the difference was more in the traditional harness vs. hardshell and I'll never go back to a standard harness again. I'd love to try a Pro Limit Vapor hardshell harness sometime, but they're just hard to find in the States.
If I was new to kiting I would look at the standard Majestic hardshell and not pay the premium for the X carbon. If you have a chance try a Pro Limit Vapor too. I think the hardshell harness is worth the extra $$$.
In the end, go for what FITS!
Thanks, so the bigger the better?tomtom wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:17 pmWhole reason for making so called hardshells are short spreader bars. They make hardshell to solve problem that will be sorted by itself by sufficient long spreader bar. Most harness have ridiculous short bars. The point of spreader bar is SPREAD /spread load to sides so load doesnt pinch you/ and it cannot happen if is too short.
Go for harness where you can choose spreader bar size and choose one that really SPREAD. If the back side is competent enough it will be ok than.
True as far as it goes but there is more to the story. The pinch is one aspect of the hard shell benefit that a much longer spreader bar might help with but does nothing for the fit/bar movement. A hard shell worn tight the way it is supposed to be worn will, if it fits properly, will keep the harness and bar from moving side to side as well as up and down. Used with a rope slider this makes toeside much more comfortable and easier than any softer waist harness. Especially if you are jumping as well. Keeps everything where it needs to be so less rib damage/pain with riding and on big crashes. The longer bar will not change this aspect from my experience.tomtom wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:17 pmWhole reason for making so called hardshells are short spreader bars. They make hardshell to solve problem that will be sorted by itself by sufficient long spreader bar. Most harness have ridiculous short bars. The point of spreader bar is SPREAD /spread load to sides so load doesnt pinch you/ and it cannot happen if is too short.
Go for harness where you can choose spreader bar size and choose one that really SPREAD. If the back side is competent enough it will be ok than.
Buy a hardshell, it does make a difference.sebastienbolhuis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:56 pmHi guys,
I'm quite new in the kitesurfing scene and I was looking to buy a harness.
Now I found two and am doubting between the 2018 Mystic Star and the 2016 Prolimit Predator.
I was wondering if somebody has any experience with one of these harnesses or could give me some advice.
Also, is there a big difference between a single strap and double strap system?
Thirdly, what impact does the size of the back end of your harness have on performance and support/comfort?
I've looked up some reviews on the predator, which were all very positive, but have not found any on the Mystic Star.
Thanks a lot!!!
vannibombonato wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:53 pmBuy a hardshell, it does make a difference.sebastienbolhuis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:56 pmHi guys,
I'm quite new in the kitesurfing scene and I was looking to buy a harness.
Now I found two and am doubting between the 2018 Mystic Star and the 2016 Prolimit Predator.
I was wondering if somebody has any experience with one of these harnesses or could give me some advice.
Also, is there a big difference between a single strap and double strap system?
Thirdly, what impact does the size of the back end of your harness have on performance and support/comfort?
I've looked up some reviews on the predator, which were all very positive, but have not found any on the Mystic Star.
Thanks a lot!!!
So it’s either Ride, Mystic X, or Ion something Ion believe. But do go hardshell.
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