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Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby charlesn » Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:57 pm

Hi everyone! I started this amazing sport 1 year ago. I'm not an expert but i already took my first steps. Currently I'm practicing pop and small jumps. My current gear is:

-Board North Gonzalez (142cm)
-Kite Cabrinha Switchblade 2014 (11m)
-Kite Best Roca 2016 (8m)

I'm looking for a kite for Light Wind and my options are:

-Kite Slingshot Rally 2015 (14m).
-Kite Best Roca 2016 (14m).
-Kite Naish Fly 2015 (15m).

I really don't know those kites. Could you give me some recommendations about them?
Thanks in advance!

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby matth » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:50 pm

The Fly is a 15m and the only true light wind kite....If your goal is pure low end and easy relaunch The Fly is most likely the best choice IMO...

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby Matteo V » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:14 pm

My experience is that big "regular" kites are NOT "light wind kites". I second the vote for a dedicated light wind specific kite.

This is going to sound a little counter intuitive, but if you do go for a regular kite, don't go too big. For your average 80kg rider, a 14m would be the largest you should go in a non-light wind specific kite. Even when there is a 16m offering in that model, that size is more geared toward 100+kg riders (not in light wind). A prime example of this is the Switch "Nitro" series. Most riders that thought they could just use a 16m "Nitro" as their light wind kite are very disappointed in it's performance. I have known 2 riders (around 80kg) that ditched the 16m Nitro in favor of the dedicated LW "Helium".

There are some kite COREporations like Ozone that do have a light wind version under their same named model. The "Edge" is actually a decent light wind kite at the larger sizes, while still a good medium to high wind kite as you go down in size. So understand that there will be some exceptions to the rule.

With your quiver stopping at 11m right now (assuming you are around 80kg), I would definitely recommend any of the kites you mentioned.
-Kite Slingshot Rally 2015 (14m). - You need this kite size in our quiver, but you will likely wind up with a bigger "light wind" kite too.
-Kite Best Roca 2016 (14m). - You need this kite size in our quiver, but you will likely wind up with a bigger "light wind" kite too.
-Kite Naish Fly 2015 (15m). - This is the only kite that would double as a your 14m and a light wind kite.

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby acctx » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:28 pm

As kites get bigger they also get heavier, which can defeat their light wind capabilities. As others have said, big kites are sometimes for heavier riders in normal wind.

I personally wont own an LEI above 12m because they are just too unwieldy. I encourage you to look at different boards instead. The larger the board, the smaller the kite you need.

For twin tips there are door boards that are really good for going in light wind

Surfboards are a completely different discipline and are fun on their own

Foil boards in particular can have you rigging at least one size if not two sizes smaller

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby Windigo1 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:06 pm

The Roca is a great kite very stable huge wind range phenomenal hangtime great low-end power I have 3 of them I'm 220 and I was often the only one able to ride. I have only tried older versions of the Fly and it wasn't my cup of tea not a lot of depower and pulls downwind like crazy. The rally is nice too but I prefer the Roca if you get a good price go for it.
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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby iriejohn » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:11 pm

What about Ozone's Zephyr (17m) which is a purpose designed light wind kite?

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby Mossy 757 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:52 pm

matth wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:50 pm
The Fly is a 15m and the only true light wind kite....If your goal is pure low end and easy relaunch The Fly is most likely the best choice IMO...
Terrible kite, horrible in light wind. It's a fat guy kite, not a light wind kite...avoid!

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby Slappysan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:22 pm

Get a 1 strut kite if you want a real LW kite.

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby lindseym » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:14 pm

charlesn wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:57 pm
Hi everyone! I started this amazing sport 1 year ago. I'm not an expert but i already took my first steps. Currently I'm practicing pop and small jumps. My current gear is:

-Board North Gonzalez (142cm)
-Kite Cabrinha Switchblade 2014 (11m)
-Kite Best Roca 2016 (8m)

I'm looking for a kite for Light Wind and my options are:

-Kite Slingshot Rally 2015 (14m).
-Kite Best Roca 2016 (14m).
-Kite Naish Fly 2015 (15m).

I really don't know those kites. Could you give me some recommendations about them?
Thanks in advance!
What do you weigh? If you are going to go Slingshot I would avoid a 14m Rally and go with a Turbine instead. It's REALLY important that you get something that is a bit higher aspect. This means that when the wind is light you can stay out there and continue to ride if it picks up a bit because you will have more range. A friend of mine rode the Naish Fly for awhile and he liked it but complained that it did not have enough grunt. I would personally go with the Roca, but again, it all depends upon what you weigh. I am 155 and in light wind the 14m just didnt quite cut it. The 17m...wow...I was able to do all kind of tricks in wind as low as 12kts. At any rate, if I had to pick between those 3 I'd definitely recommend the Roca. My personal fav for light wind is the 15m Rebel. You can't do much better for light wind.

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Re: Kite for light wind - Recommendations

Postby RagingGrandpa » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:17 pm

Read this thread:
Jttoader wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:23 pm
Hello Everyone,

This is my first time posting on a kite forum but I felt that my experiences with different kites and boards could help some of you that are searching for the best experience in this sport. I have been kiting since 2005 but didn't get serious until 2009. My passion is big air so I need lots of power to lift my 225 lbs high in the air. I have owned many different light wind kites so I felt that my comments would be appreciated by those that are thinking of spending $2,000 to enter the light wind kite arena. I have spent almost $10,000 pursing light wind and I have discovered some truths that are not clear on some of the many forums but take everything I say with a grain of salt cause this is my opinion and everyone's experience is different.

My 1st light wind kite was a 14M 2007 Cabrinha Contra - Pulled like a truck but slow with massive bar pressure.

2nd light wind kite was a 15M 2009 Best Waroo - Never liked this kite and sold within a month of buying

3rd light wind kite was a 13M 2010 RRD Obsession - Nice Kite with lots of power, turns fast, but a bit scary when wind picked up. This kite was just not that smooth especially in gusty conditions.

4th light wind kite was a 14M 2010 Slingshot RPM - Smooth Kite but sluggish and lacking in low end power.

5th light wind kite was a 19M 2011 Flysurfer - This kite has the most power of any kite I have ever flown period and foils outperform inflatables in the light stuff in my humble opinion. With that being said I didn't like this kite. It's expensive, the bridle lines would tangle occasionally (I know it's my fault), it's a pain to land cause very few people know how to assist you, the kite turns so SLOW that the power stroke needed to pull my heavy butt up on plane didn't generate enough torque to accomplish this and I'd sink back down.
Foils fly completely different than inflatables and I personally didn't like the differences. I did have some Killer Sessions on this kite though.

6th light wind kite was a 2011 15M Epic Infinity - I liked this kite at first but I had a hard time staying upwind on it. This kite has good power, turns fast, jumps good, but upwind is mediocre at best so on to the next try!

Man, by this time I am frustrated and BROKE!

7th light wind kite was a 14M 2012 Epic Screamer - Fast turning, loads of power, predictable, great low end, tons of pop, SUPERB upwind-ability, PERFECT! But the minimum wind needed with my Spleen Monster Door was 13 knots. Surely other kites must allow me to go lower and have more fun but I ignored the light wind chatter for a full 2 years.

8th light wind kite was a 17M 2013 Blade Fat Lady - Good Power but didn't compare to the Screamer 14M for upwind-ability and at 14 knots I was jumping 50% higher on my 14M vs the Fat Lady. I didn't like this kite at all.

9th and FINAL light wind kite I purchased was a 2014 Ocean Rodeo Flite 2 - Surely this kite that beat the new Cabrinha Contra, Slingshot Turbine, and Core 19M in comparison tests would save the day and establish the need for a big kite in my quiver. I called a buddy of mine to help me test this kite. Here are the facts regarding the test.

Where: Fresh Water - Lake Michigan
Wind: 13-16 knots
Waves: 1 foot or less

I weigh 225 lbs and my buddy weighs in at 160 lbs. Both of us are avid jumpers and love to go big. We were both excited by the hype surrounding the Flite but were also sensitive to spending the $2K to enter light wind kiting. We pumped up 3 kites for the test: my 14M Epic Screamer, his 12M Cabrinha Switchblade, and the 17M 2014 Flite 2. We each had 2 boards - a smaller board (137cm) & a Spleen Door.

We switched kites at least 6 times over a 3 hour period comparing them on the 2 most important elements to us: upwind-ability & BIG AIR!

The Flite: SMOOTH, POWERFUL, Magical Light Bar Pressure, Best Light Wind Kite I have ever flown, Sharp Looking!

BUT,,,,,,,

My buddy and I concluded that there was ONLY a 1-2 knot advantage over the 14M Screamer and the 12M Switchblade. We also concluded that the smaller kites are much more fun and jump much higher than the big boys in the SAME amount of wind with a big board.

The question became; am I willing to spend the money just to ride in 2 knots less wind when there is not enough power to jump. My buddy and I easily answered our own question with a big NO!

Synopsis: If you want to kite in light wind and jump don't bother buying a kite larger than a 14M. Get a big board - this will make a much larger difference than the kite. The other lesson is that kites fly differently depending on the style and size - for example neither my buddy or myself like the 14M Switchblade cause it's SLOW but the 12M Rocks. I would fly the 12M, 13M, or 14M of a few different manufactures and pick a light wind kite in these sizes UNLESS you enjoy mowing the lawn, don't care about big air, and have money to burn for a 17M.

My favorite kite of ALL TIME is the 14M Epic Screamer and if you think I'm plugging Epic remember that I SOLD the INFINITY because it is very difficult to stay upwind.

Happy Kiting and I hope my opinions shared help some of you navigate the light wind world! :bye:
I love my 2015 14.5m Flite; and don't love my 2011 14m Screamer, ymmv


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