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Carbon Tow

Postby downunder » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:42 am

So today tried to purchase Carbon Tow from http://easycomposites.co.uk:

http://easycomposites.co.uk/#!/fabric-a ... -15mm.html

Paid for it, did not notice shipment message since ordered the same item before, and BANG:

"Thanks for your email and for your order. Unfortunately, I have bad news that your order requires a full export license and therefore, we are unable to ship this to you, as such, I am sorry to inform you that I have had to cancel the order and to refund you accordingly onto your payment card. The reason for this is that the Carbon Ribbon is classified as a Mono-Filament Carbon Fibre and needs export licensing when sold outside of the European Union – unfortunately there is no way around this situation.

We are currently working with Spire, the UK’s Export License Authority to find a solution to allow us to ship to certain countries including Australia but until this approved, I’m afraid we’re unable to.

I apologise for any disappointment or inconvenience and will arrange for the order to be refunded immediately."


The EU has gone mad...Yep. we Australians are punished for living where we live, yet more and more EU citizens are moving here. Thanks to the EU bureaucrats!

Rant over...

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Re: Carbon Tow

Postby decay » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:46 pm

The problem is carbon tow is a vital part of any modern aerospace development - including serious things like Nth Korea's missile program. (Missile bodies are usually filament wound carbon tow)

Tho I could get plain tow when I worked in a factory in China we ran into this exact same problem in trying to source/purchase pre-preg carbon tow from the USA.

You can run into the same problem trying to source a 3 phase motor drive that goes past 400Hz to run say, a high speed CNC router spindle. 600 to 1200Hz is what is required for Uranium enrichment centrifuges and suitable motor drives are considered restricted exports by most western countries.

You should be able to find a source of dry tow in Aus tho?

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Re: Carbon Tow

Postby downunder » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:14 pm

Yeah,
but the legislation is punishing only small customers, coz of this:

"For orders over £500 the export licence application process is free however we will need your cooperation in completing the licence application which will include an End User Undertaking (EEU) explaining who you are and how the goods will be used.
The licence application process takes around 30 days."

It's not like we in OZ would build something to launch on Bali :)

Nah, we are so small and insignificant market I can't even buy an Entropy epoxy here. Isolation is sometimes a bless and a nitemare :)

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Re: Carbon Tow

Postby Mossy 757 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:35 pm

downunder wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:14 pm
Yeah,
but the legislation is punishing only small customers, coz of this:

"For orders over £500 the export licence application process is free however we will need your cooperation in completing the licence application which will include an End User Undertaking (EEU) explaining who you are and how the goods will be used.
The licence application process takes around 30 days."

It's not like we in OZ would build something to launch on Bali :)

Nah, we are so small and insignificant market I can't even buy an Entropy epoxy here. Isolation is sometimes a bless and a nitemare :)

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AUS and NZ are the high performance sailing hub of the world and you're having a hard time sourcing maritime composites?

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Re: Carbon Tow

Postby downunder » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:56 pm

Well, yes. Small quantities as a hens teeth apparently :)

There is no manufacturing of any carbon in AUS as I understand. And we do not have one single nuclear reactor on the continent (since they worry I might built one with 50m of carbon tow :)

Apparently, we are the biggest exporters of uranium. And no use of it. Amasing.

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Re: Carbon Tow

Postby decay » Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:15 pm

Doesn't look that hard to find locally:

http://www.carbonfiber.com.au/category9_1.htm

60m of 12K for AUD$20

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Re: Carbon Tow

Postby downunder » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:09 am

Thanks, but that is not the same product....

Im after this:
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Huge difference :)

I would have a hard time to wrap the HF fuselage with a tiny tow :)

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Re: Carbon Tow

Postby jannik » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:54 am

If you search on Aliexpress you will find a seller which has 12K 28mm*10m. rolls for $30 + shipping. I don't know if that will do it for you?


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