Re: What is your wave quiver?
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:21 pm
South coast U.K. Dare I say it 64 kilos:
Ocean Rodeo Prodigy 7m and 9.5m. Mako Duke strapless.
Ocean Rodeo Prodigy 7m and 9.5m. Mako Duke strapless.
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Re: What is your wave quiver?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:50 am
Neo 2015 5,7,9,12 + north wip 2017.
Re: What is your wave quiver?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:02 pm
Another South coast UK rider. I am around 68 kilos and use wave kites- Religions- and have a 5, 7, 9 and 10.5. Bit of an overlap between the 9m and the 10.5m to be honest but don't want to give up the possibility of riding on lighter wind days so the 10.5 stays.
I ride strapless and have a 5'8'' custom. Suits me pretty well but I am very tempted by an H Evo.
I ride strapless and have a 5'8'' custom. Suits me pretty well but I am very tempted by an H Evo.
Re: What is your wave quiver?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:16 pm
Used to use a 5'8" fish for a lot of riding. Very nice 32L quad for small waves and chop, but then foiling happened and it went to the basement. I'll foil right up to the point its good on a 6'1" thruster. I tend bigger board and less kite. The thruster is 28L and just right in waves but bouncy in chop, but since foiling the thruster is only out in nice conditions.
Have a couple of strutless kites and a couple of delta strutted kites to go with. Usually will be on the strutless if I start on the foil and deltas for the windy/stormy/gusty stuff, but they cross over well enough when it happens.
21/17m lines
kite sizes are 9/6 delta's, 8.5 strutless and 6m two strut kite. Have a 7m C that works in the right conditions but haven't used it in a while.
Re: What is your wave quiver?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:55 am
I agree with the post about “ who cares the brand “ unless its a unique material or concept.
Im 6 foot and weigh 200.
I ride 9 and 7 meter. Sometimes a 12.
Five six rounded squash with volume.
Cush skinned epoxy board
Wax mat traction set on every board
25 to 29 liters and a thick 36 liter light wind hull with the same outline as my other boards— but thicker.
Other boards in the past ranged from 6 to 6’4
All glass and epoxy chatter monsters. Cracked and smacked constantly. I cant go back to exoskeleton boards after having cush skinned boards.
Style— kitesurfing style is blahh. Kickflips and loops with the board between your legs.
Amazing stunts but not surfing.
Its true you can ride lit and be on a tiny board with little to no volume. Twin tip riding taught us all that. But a board with a good shape is amazing to ride. I prefer to feel the way a surfboard planes, carves, and accelerates.
Personal favorite is using the kite to get to and on the wave ( tow in) and then ride the board. No tow. Little to no kite power when riding the wave.
Seems that 95 percent of wave kiters are way over powered when actually on a wave face. I think there are surfers who converted to kiting. Or maybe learned at the same time. Converts seem to know that the biggest part of the wave surfing experience is lost when being pulled around the wave by the kite. More like cheating than real surfing. Its easy to spot a kiter who doesnt surf or know how to surf with only the power of the wave and gravity (not the kite) providing momentum.
Its a balancing act. Sometimes just a “kite on” and “kite off” feeling. But when the transfer from kite tow energy is gone and you feel the wave dynamics take over its truly surfing. Not just towing at a wave and smacking it and racing down the line in full tow.
—-smaller kites and a board with enough volume to be sufficient for surfing.
We may be a dying breed with all the foil madness. But my wife (who does not kite) summed it up while i was watching a foiling video.
“Why put shoes on at the beach. Why go in waves if you dont want to feel them”
We are a small group with limited venues for riding and weather variables galore.
But when the kite gets me on to a wave and i drop in full gravity and make the bottom turn i am very close to feeling the bliss of simple paddle in surfing.
But it is also true that it takes a long time to get here. Many many waves and even more mistakes.
Im 6 foot and weigh 200.
I ride 9 and 7 meter. Sometimes a 12.
Five six rounded squash with volume.
Cush skinned epoxy board
Wax mat traction set on every board
25 to 29 liters and a thick 36 liter light wind hull with the same outline as my other boards— but thicker.
Other boards in the past ranged from 6 to 6’4
All glass and epoxy chatter monsters. Cracked and smacked constantly. I cant go back to exoskeleton boards after having cush skinned boards.
Style— kitesurfing style is blahh. Kickflips and loops with the board between your legs.
Amazing stunts but not surfing.
Its true you can ride lit and be on a tiny board with little to no volume. Twin tip riding taught us all that. But a board with a good shape is amazing to ride. I prefer to feel the way a surfboard planes, carves, and accelerates.
Personal favorite is using the kite to get to and on the wave ( tow in) and then ride the board. No tow. Little to no kite power when riding the wave.
Seems that 95 percent of wave kiters are way over powered when actually on a wave face. I think there are surfers who converted to kiting. Or maybe learned at the same time. Converts seem to know that the biggest part of the wave surfing experience is lost when being pulled around the wave by the kite. More like cheating than real surfing. Its easy to spot a kiter who doesnt surf or know how to surf with only the power of the wave and gravity (not the kite) providing momentum.
Its a balancing act. Sometimes just a “kite on” and “kite off” feeling. But when the transfer from kite tow energy is gone and you feel the wave dynamics take over its truly surfing. Not just towing at a wave and smacking it and racing down the line in full tow.
—-smaller kites and a board with enough volume to be sufficient for surfing.
We may be a dying breed with all the foil madness. But my wife (who does not kite) summed it up while i was watching a foiling video.
“Why put shoes on at the beach. Why go in waves if you dont want to feel them”
We are a small group with limited venues for riding and weather variables galore.
But when the kite gets me on to a wave and i drop in full gravity and make the bottom turn i am very close to feeling the bliss of simple paddle in surfing.
But it is also true that it takes a long time to get here. Many many waves and even more mistakes.
Re: What is your wave quiver?
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:55 am
religion 5 6 8 in north sardinia summer time 76 kg .board north proseries 5.8 epoxy 2014 that do not like so much ,some stiff in the wave ,good upwind...waiting to try something more balanced towards surfing, decent conditions 3 4 time a month .
live in rome winter time ,decent conditions 3 4 times a season .
mediterranean sea has always wind genereted waves ...not the maximum....miss living by the ocean with tide waves
live in rome winter time ,decent conditions 3 4 times a season .
mediterranean sea has always wind genereted waves ...not the maximum....miss living by the ocean with tide waves
Re: What is your wave quiver?
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:13 pm
Naish Pivot 5('16)/7('16)/9('17), just traded my Firewire Vanguard for a DSD Stallion. Both 5'2. I'm 82kg.
I ride on the Dutch Northsea coast where waves are only present when there's wind. NW wind can bring waves up to 4-5m (12/15 feet) but most of the time it's (way) less than that. Waves often don't hold much power so kite-assisted waveriding is almost always a must.
Chose the Pivots as I'm also riding a TT & neither have the budget nor the desire to have dual sets for jumping/freestyle & waves. Pivots do both well imho. DSD Stallion allows me to turn much more aggressively than the Vanguard. Also, the ride over chop is more comfortable as the feel is much softer. On top of that it is more stable so you can kind of cheat when gybing
. It is much more sensitive to fore/aft foot pressure than the Vanguard so I'm adjusting there after the 3 sessions I've done. Both are comparably quick.
I ride on the Dutch Northsea coast where waves are only present when there's wind. NW wind can bring waves up to 4-5m (12/15 feet) but most of the time it's (way) less than that. Waves often don't hold much power so kite-assisted waveriding is almost always a must.
Chose the Pivots as I'm also riding a TT & neither have the budget nor the desire to have dual sets for jumping/freestyle & waves. Pivots do both well imho. DSD Stallion allows me to turn much more aggressively than the Vanguard. Also, the ride over chop is more comfortable as the feel is much softer. On top of that it is more stable so you can kind of cheat when gybing
. It is much more sensitive to fore/aft foot pressure than the Vanguard so I'm adjusting there after the 3 sessions I've done. Both are comparably quick.