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Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:40 pm
by Peter_Frank
Eltreato wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:17 am
I tried it on may Android and it works. Very cool looking concept. I was wondering when someone would get around to a inflatable SUP hydrofoil and the mast track is icing on the cake. Thankfully it doesn't support a plate foil or else my credit card would be in trouble. What is the volume of this board?
170 liter it says on the website :naughty:

Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:05 pm
by lezo
Have not tried the windfoil yet, but I think that there is a serious problem that will limit it's use in light conditions: you can not obtain the same power stroke by pumping a windsurf sail than by working a kite, which will limit both the waterstart and early foiling.

Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:12 pm
by Peter_Frank
lezo wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:05 pm
Have not tried the windfoil yet, but I think that there is a serious problem that will limit it's use in light conditions: you can not obtain the same power stroke by pumping a windsurf sail than by working a kite, which will limit both the waterstart and early foiling.


True, the foling low end will not come as low as for kitefoiling - as with a kite that has upward lift, AND more powerspike (if a foil kite particularly), besides more wind up higher :wink:

But the non foiling low end is lower for the windfoil, no doubt, as you dont need to waterstart but can always use the uphaul, so possible to get ashore even in 1-2 knots of wind, and avoid a swim :rollgrin:

THAT is a good thing for long distance runs IMO, and why I find it awesome :naughty:
And maybe the FUN low end, eventhough a bit higher for the windfoil than the kitefoil, is WAY better than for a windsurfer - smaller sails less bounce and feels good :D

8) PF

Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:16 pm
by Eltreato
Peter_Frank wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:40 pm
Eltreato wrote:
Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:17 am
I tried it on may Android and it works. Very cool looking concept. I was wondering when someone would get around to a inflatable SUP hydrofoil and the mast track is icing on the cake. Thankfully it doesn't support a plate foil or else my credit card would be in trouble. What is the volume of this board?
170 liter it says on the website :naughty:
That sounds reasonable thanks!

Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:35 am
by Peter_Frank
Finally, have been thinking about this for so long, and found a good board around 120 liters and wide, put the Ketos carbon KFBox into it.

Using a Kitefoil for windfoiling MUST be better, as it is balanced and you dont get these crazy forces on the Tuttle box like when you have a forward swept mast and wings to get the trim right, like on "classic" windfoils that fit in existing boards, so tried it now.

Used the bigger Ketos wing around 800 cm2, and a couple of days ago out for the very first time doing small flights in this half hour before sunset (actually only on the board 5 mins).

The next day, I could fly for short "almost controllable" distances ha haa - great.

You can not use much from kitefoiling, as it is like there is a 4th maybe even 5th dimension, as you are not centered over the mast/strut like you are used to - so it takes some time to get your muscle memory set, but it seems the learning curve is even faster than everything else.
Could also be because I havent windsurfed since 15 years :roll: But my sails and everything worked right out of the attic.

Having kitefoiled, pitch is easy and also very stable because of the mastfoot that stabilises.

I got some crazy wipeouts where foil tilts leeways and I get forward/leeward catapulted ha haa, just a part of learning apparently :rollgrin:

Looks like this, and great to be able to just move your normal kitefoil over to the "windfoil" :thumb:

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In the harness it stabilises even more, although I concentrate like a maniac

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The sun has set, but an amazing experience, and tough like nothing else for your body.

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It seems the windfoils are made stronger than our kitefoils, so would still make sense, but loved "doing" it like above :rollgrin:

8) PF

Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:33 am
by 3InletsWindsports
A great read

Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:58 pm
by ronnie
Zeeko owner Nicolas, returned to windsurfing after 17 years without, to create the Zeeko windfoil.


Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:37 pm
by Starsky
Did you try jibing on foil?

Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:10 pm
by ronnie
Robby Naish explaining the Naish approach to windfoiling.


Re: WindFoil - KiteFoil

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:39 pm
by Peter_Frank
Great :thumb: