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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby Kamikuza » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:19 pm

Alpine and TKF will do whatever you want.

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby Peter_Frank » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:28 pm

List of board/foil box/plate systems
Updated 20160807 12:22 UTC

Ketos
Boards: KFBox one screw.
Foils: KFBox one screw.
A 110x165/175/190mm carbon adapter is offered.
Meaning boards should be compatible with two screw KFBox if drilling two new holes.


Takoon
Boards: KFBox one screw.
Foils: KFBox one screw (Ketos production).
Meaning boards should be compatible with two screw KFBox if drilling two new holes.


F-One
Boards: KFBox two screws.
Foils: KFBox two screws.
Meaning boards should be compatible with one screw masts if drilling a center hole.


Alpine
Boards: KFBox one screw.
Foils: KFBox one screw.
Meaning boards should be compatible with two screw KFBox if drilling two new holes.
Adapter seem to be offered ?


TheKiteFoil
Boards: KFBox adjustable position two screws (but one could be used also, great idea with the long track).
Foils: KFBox two screws, or plate ??x???mm.
Or any other box on the foil head on request.


Sroka Foil
Boards: ProBox.
Foils: ProBox.


Horue
Std Tuttle and/or Deep Tuttle ?


Taaroa
Boards: Deep Tuttle.
Foils: Deep Tuttle. Also offering ProBox ? KFBox 2 or 1 screw ?


Spotz
Boards: Std Tuttle.
Foils: Std Tuttle. Also offering Probox ? KFBox 2 or 1 screw ?
The Std Tuttle can also be used in Deep Tuttle boards.


Zeeko
Boards: 85x160mm plate.
Foils: 85-90x160-165mm plate with slots for 6-8mm screws. Or Std Tuttle offered on carbon masts.
Foils before 2015: 85x165mm plate.
Older and newer Zeeko foils fits all zeeko boards old and new. New foils fit other brands 90x165mm boards. Boards does not fit other brand 90x165mm foils though.


Moses
Boards: 90x165mm plate 6mm screws.
Foils: 90x165mm plate 7mm holes.
Boards/foils till around 2014/15 plate 68x148mm 7mm holes 6mm screws.


Levitaz
Boards: 90x165mm plate 8mm screws.
Foils: 90x165mm plate 10mm holes.


Liquid Force
Boards: 90x140mm plate.
Foils: 90x140mm plate.
Fixed in Funny Foil and Foil Fish board.
Sliding 90mm width in Happy Foil board.

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby gmb13 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:06 pm

The Spotz don't use the STD Tuttle as has been described in the OP.

It using the Chinnok Box Measurements wich is 61mm deep at the deepest point not 49mm. Axis also uses this box.

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:23 am

gmb13 wrote:The Spotz don't use the STD Tuttle as has been described in the OP.

It using the Chinnok Box Measurements wich is 61mm deep at the deepest point not 49mm. Axis also uses this box.

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So Spotz are not using std Tuttle but a modified Deep Tuttle, shortened from 67 to 61mm on the mast, and a Deep Tuttle on their boards (Chinook box) or is it also smaller ?

Or ?
Can you or anyone clarify this 61mm depth as I am not sure what this is ?

Axis uses Deep Tuttle they write (besides the plate).

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby gmb13 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:36 am

Chinook produces a tuttle box which has a depth of 61mm at the front. This is not a modified box. This is actually a standard and us build into most windsurfing slalom boards. This is what Spotz and Axis and a few other brands are using as it's easy to get the Chinook box and there is no problems with variations in box width and depth.

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby foilonfoil » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:40 am

List of board/foil box/plate systems
Updated 20160810 04:35 UTC

Ketos
Boards: KFBox one screw.
Foils: KFBox one screw.
A 110x165/175/190mm carbon adapter is offered.
Meaning boards should be compatible with two screw KFBox if drilling two new holes.


Takoon
Boards: KFBox one screw.
Foils: KFBox one screw (Ketos production).
Meaning boards should be compatible with two screw KFBox if drilling two new holes.


F-One
Boards: KFBox two screws.
Foils: KFBox two screws.
Meaning boards should be compatible with one screw masts if drilling a center hole.


Alpine
Boards: KFBox one screw or 2 Screws if ordering with Ultimate or Titanium Foils. Alpine will install a second hole if requested on all boards.
Foils: KFBox one screw standard or 2 screws standard if ordering Ultimate or Titanium Foils. Alpine will install a second screw if requested on all foils.
Boards compatible with two screw KFBox if drilling two new holes.
KFBox adapter to 4 bolt mount available for carbon foils.
Replacement heads for Aluminum foils provide KFBox, Tuttle Box, or 4 Bolt Plate mounting options.


TheKiteFoil
Boards: KFBox adjustable position two screws (but one could be used also, great idea with the long track).
Foils: KFBox two screws, or plate ??x???mm.
Or any other box on the foil head on request.


Sroka Foil
Boards: ProBox.
Foils: ProBox.


Horue
Std Tuttle and/or Deep Tuttle ?


Taaroa
Boards: Deep Tuttle.
Foils: Deep Tuttle. Also offering ProBox ? KFBox 2 or 1 screw ?


Spotz
Boards: Std Tuttle.
Foils: Std Tuttle. Also offering Probox ? KFBox 2 or 1 screw ?
The Std Tuttle can also be used in Deep Tuttle boards.


Zeeko
Boards: 85x160mm plate.
Foils: 85-90x160-165mm plate with slots for 6-8mm screws. Or Std Tuttle offered on carbon masts.
Foils before 2015: 85x165mm plate.
Older and newer Zeeko foils fits all zeeko boards old and new. New foils fit other brands 90x165mm boards. Boards does not fit other brand 90x165mm foils though.


Moses
Boards: 90x165mm plate 6mm screws.
Foils: 90x165mm plate 7mm holes.
Boards/foils till around 2014/15 plate 68x148mm 7mm holes 6mm screws.


Levitaz
Boards: 90x165mm plate 8mm screws.
Foils: 90x165mm plate 10mm holes.


Liquid Force
Boards: 90x140mm plate.
Foils: 90x140mm plate.
Fixed in Funny Foil and Foil Fish board.
Sliding 90mm width in Happy Foil board.

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:28 am

gmb13 wrote:Chinook produces a tuttle box which has a depth of 61mm at the front. This is not a modified box. This is actually a standard and us build into most windsurfing slalom boards. This is what Spotz and Axis and a few other brands are using as it's easy to get the Chinook box and there is no problems with variations in box width and depth.

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Thanks Gunnar :thumb: - I did not know (ride windsurf waveboards and freestyleboards and they never use deep box'es) :roll:

Can anyone elaborate on the precise measurements - not much to be found on the internet...
There must be a drawing/spec ?
Assume screws are the same ø7mm 105mm apart so a Std Tuttle can fit in the Chinook box, and a Chinook head can fit in a Deep Tuttle box.

I remember the Chinook box now I see it, but thought it was a Deep Tuttle (and a small Std Tuttle version) but apparently a third height and not Tuttle in its original two heights.

What is the name for this head/standard ? Chinook (medium) Tuttle, or ?

Will ask my windsurf friends, but maybe some in here knows, as (ex)windsurfers - thats the beauty of a worldwide forum :rollgrin:

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby gmb13 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:00 am

It really depends. For example the Cobra tuttle boxes are .5mm less wide.

Here you can find the Chinook: http://chinooksailing.com/index.php/win ... e-box.html

Here are the dimensions of my Spotz and Axis Tuttle Heads.

Height Front: 59mm
Height Back : 40mm
Width: 16mm
Length 156mm

Screws are 105mm apart.

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:09 am

gmb13 wrote:It really depends. For example the Cobra tuttle boxes are .5mm less wide.

Here you can find the Chinook: http://chinooksailing.com/index.php/win ... e-box.html

Here are the dimensions of my Spotz and Axis Tuttle Heads.

Height Front: 59mm
Height Back : 40mm
Width: 16mm
Length 156mm

Screws are 105mm apart.

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The link only shows the outer measurements of the Chinook box, which is not interesting for users seeking what is compatible.
So the depth in this box is important - you say it is 61mm at the front ?
So a Std Tuttle (if not too loose) and a Chinook medium Tuttle will fit.

Height Front: 59mm.
Is that the 90 degree vertical height, or height measured on the front ?
As with the 10 degree angle there is about 1mm difference in these (0,9mm).


Yes, the boxes and exact widths/fit has always been a tiny bit different, unfortunately :roll:

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Re: Overview Boxes and Plates

Postby davesails7 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:06 pm

Delta uses the same tuttle box as spotz. I've never seen a spotz with anything but tuttle.

I don't think the taaroa boards are deep tuttle. I think they are pro box. Taaroa foils are available with pro, tuttle, or deep tuttle heads though.


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