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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby pikovsg » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:20 pm

airsurfer wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:39 pm
I had my first stabless session with the Moses 683 and 633 wings and first impression it worked fine but not sure about it yet . The foil felt very free and loose with much less drag and the acceleration was great. at first I was like wow this is easier than I thought until I hit the waves and white water. It was very pitch sensitive so going over waves was scary and foot switches resulted in nose dives. I definitely needed to carry more speed to stay stable so I think I need at least a few more hours in flat water to dial it in before I decide if it's for me or if I have the skill to master it
Did you have to move the mast forward or backward with Onda for the mono session? Going to try it as well today

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:52 pm

pikovsg wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:20 pm
airsurfer wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:39 pm
I had my first stabless session with the Moses 683 and 633 wings and first impression it worked fine but not sure about it yet . The foil felt very free and loose with much less drag and the acceleration was great. at first I was like wow this is easier than I thought until I hit the waves and white water. It was very pitch sensitive so going over waves was scary and foot switches resulted in nose dives. I definitely needed to carry more speed to stay stable so I think I need at least a few more hours in flat water to dial it in before I decide if it's for me or if I have the skill to master it
Did you have to move the mast forward or backward with Onda for the mono session? Going to try it as well today

It is so little difference in trim usually, that you might not need to move it at all.

But if you want to, the mast should be moved a tiny tad further rear when you ride with the stabilizer, so mast a tad more forward when without stab.

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby airsurfer » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:56 pm

yes I moved the mast forward 3cm and it felt like I needed some back foot pressure so prob could have gone 4cm forward

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby Horst Sergio » Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:28 am

Yes, also at my setups I have around 4 cm inbetween strut positions with and without stabi. There are also some boards with tracks to much in the back, which potentially will not allow a monofoil friendly setting, even not in the full forward strut position. Good if you can take extra long tracks as I will do at Groove. But as mentioned on page 10 also the angle inbetween your foot position and the wing is important. In the best case you can change it as on my future board with "steptail":
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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby grigorib » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:47 pm

I read lots of your guys feedback and I concluded few items:
- it’s not that hard to switch to monofoil
- monofoil has much less drag

I got excited about simplicity of potentially having mast and wing only, therefore reducing weight, size and cost of whole setup.

I was itching to give it a try so I did. Put together H4 on 24” mast and 42” Dwarfcraft, and took it out by the shipwreck in Rodanthe few days back.

I can concur on lower drag, the rides vere very smooth, but riding was a lot like learning to foil years ago.
Very smooth bronco :)
Surprisingly I could go farher and more stable on my weak side but on the strong side I’d get into porpoising fairly quick. Tried to move mast back, tried different stance - same mediocre outcome.
Maybe a bigger board would help recovering from touchdowns but the fact I was touching down on a foil for me indicates something is really wrong.

I’ll try 633 later, still curious but way less excited
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