Sliding spreader bar , what do you think ?

[marekmk]

The Dynabar bar is fantastic. they have worked to keep on refining the product and each time I can,t imagine it getting any better, yet is does.

why go into home build?

http://www.jaystore.eu/index.php/shoppi ... abar-xt-v8

[paulOz]

My 2 cents.
I move to the dynabar 10 sessions ago.
Improved my ability to foil toeside 200%.
I don't notice it 99% of the time.

I wont be going back.

cheers
Paul

[revhed]

why go into home build

Cost and the fun of D I Y!
I have tested several factory stock jay bar systems and will choose mine over it every and for a fraction of the cost!
R H

[Flag53]

Well I went and did it and bought a new harness.
My existing North styler packed in , so I needed a new one.
I went for the Ion Pro Wave with rope slider as I thought if I don't like it I could put the hook spreader bar of my old harness onto the new harness.
There are two settings, double rope which is quite short and similar distance to a normal hook or single rope which is a couple Of inches further out.
I tried it on both settings on my wave board as its too windy for the foil.
First impressions are that its really nice.
The shorter setting feels very similar to a hook but with less harness twist and is very comfy and I felt at ease with it straight away.
The single rope setting swung around more but put the depower adjustment on my kite a bit too far away.

So first impressions are good , thanks for all the advice guys

[flying grandpa]

The Dynabar bar is fantastic. they have worked to keep on refining the product and each time I can,t imagine it getting any better, yet is does.

why go into home build?

99% of my sessions I ride as a goofy - more than 3 years. Spreader bar presented helps my cross bone to resist tensions. Riding toeside, it reduce momentum acting on my spine by half. I still dream about the bar that will refuce this momentum to zero.





But still good after session streching is essential to my health.
Cheers
Tadeusz

[Peter_Frank]

I had a long session with my Ride Engine sliding spreader bar today.

Now I know why I (still) dont like it

Of course you have to use loads of time to get your muscle memory and body to adapt - as you suddenly have to have your arm bent or pushed out, depending on which side of the spreader the ring is.

But this is only an adaption, and comes quite quick - during the session one could adapt indeed, just thinking about it, so should not take long.
It also has a very odd non-firm feel, but this could one maybe get used to.

The problem for me, is: When you do a turn, it might slide differently depending upon where you look (ie where your body is tweaked compared to the kite) - and this is crucial, as a few centimeters wrong position of the bar (which it inevitably leads to now and then) will ruin a perfect carve or jibe or move IMO.

Of course one might be able to get used to this, and outweigh this with the advantages, true.

But not being able to use 100 % precise and predictable kite (power) control is a no no for me, as this is the major part of making perfect carves

Yes, I can twist my body more "upwind" with this bar, both toeside or normal, great
But apart from that, I found the disadvantages bigger than this...

Have ridden it a lot last year too, without really knowing what the major problem was - but today I realized what it was (for me, others and many might not agree)

And as said before, I am REALLY stiff and not flexible, so I could need some more freedom, but it does not really work for me for some reason

PF

[Kamikuza]

Took me two or three screw ups on the TT to adapt, but it was instantly good on the directional. When I started learning the foil, I went back to fixed because I thought I'd have issues...I was wrong. And the extra twist I can get at the hips helps heaps, especially toe side.

It's not the spreader bar that's letting down my carves but my timing with the kite...

Each to their own

[revhed]

I am REALLY stiff and not flexible, so I could need some more freedom,

ME TOO!
And that is exactly why you need to get used to and use a sliding spreader system!
As I already posted at least for me the amount of bunji centering based on its thickness and strength is critical.
Seen in the photos above NO bunji center resistance at least for me is out for sure as sometimes it will slide quickly and for kite loops when on TT, NO WAY!
But Having what would seem when not under force to much bunji center but JUST enough when toe side to pull all the way to the side works great!
I have found that one can get a near linear "slide" when both foiling and all other types of kiteboarding.
R H

[Starsky]

There is definitely a degree of "slop" to the kite feel imparted by a slider. The smaller the slide the less noticeable it is, but its there and it adds some variability to your timing when learning to jibe on a foil. It's usually not a big deal and something you either learn to adapt/accept or not. The trade off is range of motion and decreased torque at the harness.

I think how you feel about it can depend a bit on what kite your using. Have noticed the slider slop did not pair well with the hyper sensitive sheeting and soft structure of my 12m Cloud, but was barely noticeable when matched to the low sheeting sensitivity and over all rigidity of my 9m Rally. The Cloud and the Rally are really opposites on those particular aspects where the Cloud has a definite top end above which it's not much fun and the Rally is so rigid and swept, it basically never tops out, but has none of the clouds agility and feel.

In going to an 8.5m cloud for that workhorse size, I've dropped the slider in favour of a pivot to take better advantage of the kite's strong suits.

Looking at those shots above, it's glaring to me how much cleaner the integrated leash of the BRM bar system is. All the function without the clutter. You really don't miss the chicken loop.

[opie]

Starsky, Is that a diy top half of that Cloud connection? Where did you get the metal flap release thingy that goes in the ball?