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Postby tmcfarla » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:49 pm
Haven’t used a Zeeko carver or 150, but had Zeeko black and white and now use 110. I would think the 110 is probably pretty comparable to carver in terms of low end. 110 has way better low-speed abilities than the Zeeko black and white. For my weight (150 pounds/70 kg), I can’t imagine needing a larger wing than the 110. At really light wind, I think board and kite are probably more important than foil. 110 is a superb foil, it isn’t as fast as Zeeko B&W, but very versatile and comfortable.
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theblutch
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Postby theblutch » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:40 pm
Thank you for your answer. Exactly in terms of board I use just pockets without too much scoop and I would like to reduce my kite sizes, that's why I thought the 150 was a good option
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Postby BigSky » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:50 pm
I have the 110, 130 and 170. I think the 130 is money. Hell, I'd sell the 110 if you want it. I don't notice a big difference in the high end between 110 and 130, but 130 has a considerably lower take off speed so the low end difference is big. I'm no expert. I'm addicted to foiling and have moderate skills. I cruise pretty fast and love to do big sweeping s-turns. I suck at transitions as my preference is to go distance. I really love the Lift Foils. Super durable and butter smooth.
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Postby pikovsg » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:22 pm
I have the 90, 110, 130, 150, 170 and the newly minted 200. Will be testing the 200 tomorrow, but from the looks of it it will be similar to Moses 633 with even better carving potential. Very excited about this one! Overall, the guys at Lift are just the most fantastic, nicest and most helpful crew. Will bat for these guys any day!
Honest assessment of all wings:
90 - only Lift wing I didn't like. Requires a lot of speed to get on foil, dives at high speed, and most importantly not fast enough for race course and speed rush. Replaced with new, much faster Moses 637/420 wings. This wing needs a bit of love to be great.
110 - favorite wing for general use so far. Super fun and does everything well. Not for big waves. Fastest wing of the bunch by a lot, ridiculous jibes, somewhat wild but fun speedy carves and decent boosts. Sometimes this wing is too fast when jiving and wave riding as it may outrun the kite on carves.
130 - wing I started on when moving to Carbon from Slingshot last fall. Wing has been gathering dust since. Will give it a lot more testing in the upcoming weeks. Lots of promise here. Versus 110 - noticeably better low end, but noticeably less speed as well.
150 - current favorite for pretty much everything, but bigger waves. May seem slow initially, but if you push it becomes super fun. Boosts well as well. Pure magic in chop and waves up to 3 feet. For bigger waves you may need the new 200.
170 - too slow for flat and choppy water, but still too fast for riding the face of bigger waves. Sold it to get the 200
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theblutch
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Postby theblutch » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:58 pm
Thank you guys, make sure you serious! I'm thinking of going on a lift 150
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Postby junebug » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:16 am
I have the 110, and I recently bought a 150. I tried to take off the 110 wing to replace it with the 150, and I couldn’t get it off. I took out the bolts, turned the board upside down, stood on it, and yanked the wing as hard as I could, but I couldn’t get the wing to separate from the mast.
Any suggestions? I was gonna try wrapping it in a towel and tapping it with a mallet, but I’m nervous about cracking it.
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Postby pikovsg » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:20 am
Rubber hammer. Add silicone grease to it afterwards.
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theblutch
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Postby theblutch » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:18 am
to go to another question. Some resident riders in europe have already ordered from lift?
I'm wondering on the customs duties and VAT intra-community. Lift charges me $ 300 for transportation costs. They tell me that this price also includes customs duties as well as VAT. If it's really that I think it's interesting, but I'm suspicious anyway. I do not want to receive a mail later inviting me to pay these fees there.
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theblutch
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Postby theblutch » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:45 pm
Good, program change. I go on a "110 lift" available immediately at an Italian shop (so without all these VAT concerns etc ...)
I hope I will not regret my purchase
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Postby theblutch » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:45 am
This is my lift 110
"Foil" test yesterday by 11/13 knots. I was in cabo 7 meter. Beautiful construction for a hyper light foil (2.8kg). Comes with a carrying case that's a nice surprise. Immediate handling, I fly from the start. Super player with a very nice glide. it turns shorter than my zeeko and that I appreciate. Friends saw me evolved and were amazed by the fluidity of movement in comparison with zeeko. everything was more smooth ...
Negative point: the low range, I was limit limit with my 7. I was able to test the ketos with wing wave xl at the same time .. it takes off all alone even with my 7 meter. So I'm thinking about getting the fuselage back from the shop and taking the 150
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