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Foil SUP

Postby Icharus » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:32 pm

I KNOW we are all thinking it - after watching Kai do his thing. Are there any good resources you guys can point me to? Anyone found anything ? I am ready to get a SUP to slot one of my foils into - but I am thinking you can go for a much smaller board? As the foil will add stability at lower speeds. Would love to hear from those that have taken the leap.

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Re: Foil SUP

Postby matth » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:02 pm

Waves and foils scare me, getting rolled could get ugly.

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Re: Foil SUP

Postby Blackrat » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:21 pm

A kitefoil isn't going to work in the sup , the front blade isn't big enough

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Re: Foil SUP

Postby cglazier » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:29 pm

A kitefoil isn't going to work in the sup , the front blade isn't big enough
Correct.
Alex Aguera makes foils for SUPs that are significantly bigger and thicker than kiteboarding foils so that they work at slower speeds.

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Re: Foil SUP

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:18 pm

Blackrat wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:21 pm
A kitefoil isn't going to work in the sup , the front blade isn't big enough

Sure about that ?
Average sizing maybe (whatever that is ha haa) too small yes.

But some standard kitefoil wings are almost 900 cm2, THAT is big :thumb:

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Re: Foil SUP

Postby ronnie » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:51 pm

J-Shapes foil.
Paddle in.
https://www.facebook.com/DKsurfingNZ/vi ... 160703374/

Tow in.
https://www.facebook.com/DKsurfingNZ/vi ... =3&theater

They only list one production foil, but that's not a guarantee that it is the same foil design in all the videos.
https://www.jshapes.com/collections/foils


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Re: Foil SUP

Postby ronnie » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:00 am

The Takuma V-100 is a very big foil.


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Re: Foil SUP

Postby OzBungy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:07 am

ronnie wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:51 pm
...They only list one production foil, but that's not a guarantee that it is the same foil design in all the videos.
...
It is the one foil. They are working on a racing foil but that's still under development.

They use a 70cm mast and a surfing specific board for paddling in. There is a video of somebody paddling the 155cm foil board into a wave.

I have to say I am loving my J Shapes. It just works. So simple and reliable.

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Re: Foil SUP

Postby ronnie » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:28 am

OzBungy wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:07 am
ronnie wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:51 pm
...They only list one production foil, but that's not a guarantee that it is the same foil design in all the videos.
...
It is the one foil. They are working on a racing foil but that's still under development.

They use a 70cm mast and a surfing specific board for paddling in. There is a video of somebody paddling the 155cm foil board into a wave.

I have to say I am loving my J Shapes. It just works. So simple and reliable.
Thanks!
They mentioned custom foils, so I wasn't sure - though I thought that one foil could work at the speeds in the videos.

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Re: Foil SUP

Postby gmb13 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:04 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:18 pm
Blackrat wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:21 pm
A kitefoil isn't going to work in the sup , the front blade isn't big enough

Sure about that ?
Average sizing maybe (whatever that is ha haa) too small yes.

But some standard kitefoil wings are almost 900 cm2, THAT is big :thumb:

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It is not just the general size that makes a good SUP Foil. If you look at the go foil kai, it has a profile thickness of around 36mm on the front wing. The profile is also hyper stable compared to a Large Kitefoil wing profile. It tops out at around 14 knots, which is what you want. I have been messing around sup foiling for some time with large kitefoil and windfoil wings for some time now, and that was pretty horrible and dangerous too.

Also the mast length is key. 60cm is the magic length. If you try your 90cm mast, your will have a very hard time.

What also makes a good SUP Foil is not having sharp edges. The Go Foil, Naish Malolo and Takuma are safe as they have really round noses on all profiles. A windfoil/Kitefoil will injure you quite badly. Some guy went out on the F-One Wind/SUP Foil here the other day and ended in the hospital looking like the Joker. It has a sharp nose protruding past the front wing and was nice shap winglets on the back wing. To be fair, the guy ignored the advice of maybe learning to foil behind a boat first.

Basically what I am saying is, if you are going to go SUP Foiling, you should have a proper SUP Foil that is safe. And also maybe take that setup out on a kite first so you can figure out where the balance points are before you head into waves.

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