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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby RagingGrandpa » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:08 pm

BTW, anyone have info or pics of the KBHF skeleton-like board someone tried, that was a pair of boots with a frame but otherwise no deck?

Searched but didn't find... thx in advance

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby juandesooka » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:32 am

RagingGrandpa wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:08 pm
BTW, anyone have info or pics of the KBHF skeleton-like board someone tried, that was a pair of boots with a frame but otherwise no deck?

Searched but didn't find... thx in advance
Can't help you there. But within the past week I saw a video, facebook or instagram, of someone (Kai Lenny maybe) paddle into a wave on a sup, then the foil detached to just two small pads on top of a thin shaft. So a modern example may be easier to find. If I come across it again, I'll post it.

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby cnski » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:29 am

Elliot Leboe did a ton of foiling on Maui for a period of time early on. I would say he was one of the early kitefoil pioneers.

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby ronnie » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:05 pm

RagingGrandpa wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:08 pm
BTW, anyone have info or pics of the KBHF skeleton-like board someone tried, that was a pair of boots with a frame but otherwise no deck?

Searched but didn't find... thx in advance
This is quite small.

Image

The guy at Brucecreations created one that was even smaller by having a spine joining the two foot pads.

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby jumptheshark » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:16 pm

That is awesome. I wonder how hard it is to get up and going?

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby ronnie » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:22 pm

Randahl wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:18 pm
For a time there was only the Carafino and Rush Randle I think. I believe one of the catalysts for Taaroa becoming a thing was a disagreement over their arrangement for selling Carafino's in Europe. He could have been hyrdofoiling's cabrinha or naish but for his personality and practices. I tried hard to get my hands on one of his foils in the early days of foil fever and he couldn't get out of his own way to sell me one (if it was really true that he had the next production run available in "4-6 weeks")(which now I am 100% sure wasn't true)

Development has gone in two or three directions-- the race foils are getting impossibly fast and high aspect with banga, levitaz, mike's lab to name a few, --then there is the surf riding direction where the wing aspects are lower and masts and fuselages shorter, like pelican foils and aguera's stuff, and similarly, the carve/cruise/learn foils which are probably the most prolific and broad category that I have made (lumping the LF and slingshot foils in there)
Back in the late 1990's Neil Pryde Maui with Rush Randle were developing a windfoil using one of the sit down wake foils. Antoine Albeau windfoiled one of their prototypes before 2000 and bought one of the foils, which he still uses for wakefoiling.



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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby Slappysan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:47 pm

I think the wing on the old airchairs looks the most like the Slingshot H4 wing, which has now become their default kite wing. On the other hand though airchairs were designed to be ridden starting at 20 knots while all the current surf foils 20 knots is the top end and many go as low as 8 knots.

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby Regis-de-giens » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:51 pm

Nice topic gentlemens.

I have a huge respect to the pioneers that succeed to fly on a HF; when you think again at how hard it is to start and foil-up, now assuming that you don't have the knowledge that others succeeded before you, you need an unlimited self-confidence and courage to keep thinking it will work ...

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby Foil » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:36 pm

Regis-de-giens wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:51 pm
Nice topic gentlemens.

I have a huge respect to the pioneers that succeed to fly on a HF; when you think again at how hard it is to start and foil-up, now assuming that you don't have the knowledge that others succeeded before you, you need an unlimited self-confidence and courage to keep thinking it will work ...
I remember a very early foil board was down at Rhosneigr on Anglesey, UK.
this was so far back I think Arron Hadlow was there competing in an early kitesurfing competition, it must have been around 2006 or earlier.
I remember picking it up and thinking it was heavy, others who had tried using it told me to have a go but don't expect to get going as no one else had got up.
This turned me off having a go, as everyone was rubbishing it,saying it was too hard, and if the pro kite-surfers were saying that it must have been true.
If only I knew it was quite normal to not just get going on it straight away.
A wasted 12 years at least.

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Re: Back to the roots of hydrofoiling ?

Postby SENDIT! » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:38 pm

Foil wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:36 pm
Regis-de-giens wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:51 pm
Nice topic gentlemens.

I have a huge respect to the pioneers that succeed to fly on a HF; when you think again at how hard it is to start and foil-up, now assuming that you don't have the knowledge that others succeeded before you, you need an unlimited self-confidence and courage to keep thinking it will work ...
I remember a very early foil board was down at Rhosneigr on Anglesey, UK.
this was so far back I think Arron Hadlow was there competing in an early kitesurfing competition, it must have been around 2006 or earlier.
I remember picking it up and thinking it was heavy, others who had tried using it told me to have a go but don't expect to get going as no one else had got up.
This turned me off having a go, as everyone was rubbishing it,saying it was too hard, and if the pro kite-surfers were saying that it must have been true.
If only I knew it was quite normal to not just get going on it straight away.
A wasted 12 years at least.
Yes, exactly. I saw (I think) Jeff Tobias (Slingshot) and Martin Vari (later of Vari kites) trying to ride an early foil in Kailua Bay back around 2003(?). They were having a terrible time of it, I mean really getting an ass whipping. I watched that for a bit and decided that if these guys, that I regularly watched to AMAZING things with a kite, couldn't do it, it wasn't for me to ever try. Main reason I never tried foiling for another 14 years. :cry:


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