Maybe Im not there yet, but Im with Juandesooka on this one. I really don't like foiling underpowered. It takes all the fun away. You can't bear off and simply let the kite drift, your angle upwind is nothing special, you can't get a hit of power to save yourself from imminent doom, and if it lulls just a little you can be sitting in the water waiting (in perfectly decent wind) for a gust to get up and going again. Don't get me wrong, Im not a fan of being overpowered either, that can be almost as limiting, but the very moment I have felt underpowered on a surfboard and switched to the foil with the same kite has always been right back into the sweet spot. Lately have found my wind threshold creeping back up, despite the foil. I haven't used my 12m yet this year because those days just don't seem to tempt me. Glad I have it for some future wind drought when I'll need a fix, but lately if its not at least 12 knots, I really can't be bothered.Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:30 am
When the wind is just on the light side for a waveboard, I find the same kitesize on a foilboard is too big.
In short: I see two kitesizes difference from waveboard to foilboard, so changing back and fourth if the wind goes up and down during the day, is a no no for me - I have to rig two different sizes and THEN I can change (also use different linelenghts anyways) if I want to change back and fourth, even if the wind changes a bit.
Meaning in the same wind the difference waveboard-foilboard for me is typical 6-4 m2 8-5 m2 10-6 m2 which is two kitesizes difference, not only one
PF
I believe Plummet bought a 4m Uno this year. There is also a video posted on here of a guy using an Uno - but I think it's a 2.5m from memory. They definitely work for foiling.
Yep I have a 4m uno. Its awesome for the price. Only had a couple pf good sessions with it on the foil in 20-25 knots. Awesome lippidy loop session. It will be my go to kite for high wind wave riding.DukeSilver wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:26 amI believe Plummet bought a 4m Uno this year. There is also a video posted on here of a guy using an Uno - but I think it's a 2.5m from memory. They definitely work for foiling.
TomW wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:45 pmHej guys, thanks for your insights and personal experiences.
I'm still a noob, but getting out in more varied conditions, but playing it safe.
Peter, you're years ahead of me. But considering my experience and knowing I need to fly a kite more conservative ( as noob) on foil, if I want to go out in 20-25, do you think I should get a Mono 5m? I can also get a Mono 3,5 or Neo 4 or a Ozone Uno 4 or Ozone Reo 4.
As it stands now, I'm on a 12 in 8-14 knots, the 9m 14-18, the 7m 16-20.
I'm wondering if the 5 is small enough...
Very much want to maximize my time on the foil.
I wondered about that as well. A good wave kite makes more sense to me as wellPeter_Frank wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:36 pmBut why not buy a wavekite instead of a mono or similar ?
You must need something when it blows 25-30 knots, for riding waves on your waveboard, or do you pass over on windy days ?
Starsky wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:59 amPeter_Frank wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:30 am
When the wind is just on the light side for a waveboard, I find the same kitesize on a foilboard is too big.
In short: I see two kitesizes difference from waveboard to foilboard, so changing back and fourth if the wind goes up and down during the day, is a no no for me - I have to rig two different sizes and THEN I can change (also use different linelenghts anyways) if I want to change back and fourth, even if the wind changes a bit.
Meaning in the same wind the difference waveboard-foilboard for me is typical 6-4 m2 8-5 m2 10-6 m2 which is two kitesizes difference, not only one
PF
Maybe Im not there yet, but Im with Juandesooka on this one. I really don't like foiling underpowered. It takes all the fun away. You can't bear off and simply let the kite drift, your angle upwind is nothing special, you can't get a hit of power to save yourself from imminent doom, and if it lulls just a little you can be sitting in the water waiting (in perfectly decent wind) for a gust to get up and going again. Don't get me wrong, Im not a fan of being overpowered either, that can be almost as limiting, but the very moment I have felt underpowered on a surfboard and switched to the foil with the same kite has always been right back into the sweet spot. Lately have found my wind threshold creeping back up, despite the foil. I haven't used my 12m yet this year because those days just don't seem to tempt me. Glad I have it for some future wind drought when I'll need a fix, but lately if its not at least 12 knots, I really can't be bothered.
For me, two full steps up from foil kite size is twin tip size. Have even had that board out a few times lately!
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