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andre_oner
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Postby andre_oner » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:53 pm
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Postby gbrungra » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:23 pm
Not the best translation. They use "nervous" as positive adjective...
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Postby Bletti » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:17 pm
I'm curious about the market for people who want a race ready aluminum foil vs either more expensive full carbon new foils or older used carbon race foils that would be cheaper than a new aluminum foil. Granted 35/38 kts is pretty fast!
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Postby Macisback » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:03 am
Nice one!
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Postby davesails7 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:08 am
Bletti wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:17 pm
I'm curious about the market for people who want a race ready aluminum foil vs either more expensive full carbon new foils or older used carbon race foils that would be cheaper than a new aluminum foil. Granted 35/38 kts is pretty fast!
Yeah, that is a strange market to go after. Is it actually for racing (max VMG upwind/downwind), or just for speed (top speed in a straight line, not necessarily hardest upwind/downwind)? It doesn't say anything about racing in the literature. It is a damn good deal though for a fast foil!
13mm thick for the strut is very thin. Isn't that the approximate thickness of race carbon struts? It seems like an aluminum strut to be thicker than a carbon strut, no matter how it was designed because carbon is WAY stiffer than aluminum.
Zeeko is the only company I've seen who posts top speeds for their foils. I'm not sure how to take those numbers. I know on something like an LF Foil Fish or a Cabrinha foil there is a top speed where you kinda hit a wall, but on most higher end foils it only seems to be limited by how much power you can put into it and how brave you are.
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Postby gmb13 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:11 am
davesails7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:08 am
Bletti wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:17 pm
I'm curious about the market for people who want a race ready aluminum foil vs either more expensive full carbon new foils or older used carbon race foils that would be cheaper than a new aluminum foil. Granted 35/38 kts is pretty fast!
Yeah, that is a strange market to go after. Is it actually for racing (max VMG upwind/downwind), or just for speed (top speed in a straight line, not necessarily hardest upwind/downwind)? It doesn't say anything about racing in the literature. It is a damn good deal though for a fast foil!
13mm thick for the strut is very thin. Isn't that the approximate thickness of race carbon struts? It seems like an aluminum strut to be thicker than a carbon strut, no matter how it was designed because carbon is WAY stiffer than aluminum.
Zeeko is the only company I've seen who posts top speeds for their foils. I'm not sure how to take those numbers. I know on something like an LF Foil Fish or a Cabrinha foil there is a top speed where you kinda hit a wall, but on most higher end foils it only seems to be limited by how much power you can put into it and how brave you are.
13mm is pretty much the standard now on Alu Masts. The OEM mast that Axis, Naish, RRD, Takuma etc use is 13mm and stiffer than even some Carbon masts on the market.
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Postby davesails7 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:56 am
gmb13 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:11 am
13mm is pretty much the standard now on Alu Masts.
Oh, for some reason I thought they were thicker. What is the thickness of a carbon race foil strut?
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Postby gmb13 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:14 pm
davesails7 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:56 am
gmb13 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:11 am
13mm is pretty much the standard now on Alu Masts.
Oh, for some reason I thought they were thicker. What is the thickness of a carbon race foil strut?
Between 18 and 11mm. For example the new Z-Foil is 11.9mm at its thinnest section and 18mm at its thickest. Most well designed masts taper down to the fuselage connection point to keep max strength at the top and minimum drag under the water.
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Postby 3InletsWindsports » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:35 am
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Postby 3InletsWindsports » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:28 pm
Has anyone tried these yet.
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