Moses 2018

[TomW]

Interested too. I would consider getting one either the 683 or 633 with fuselage for my fluente strut.

[grigorib]

My 633/749/483 arrives tomorrow. Will post pics.

As of the Lift 170 (and I saw a note of Lift 200 already), I would not want to drag two incompatible type of masts.
I have a long 42” (106cm) and a short 71cm (28”) masts and it’s a great combination to mount either fuselage, either of my wings and stabilizers.

I hope that Moses will make a large wing mountable on a standard kitefoil fuselage before next year.
590 could have been easily wider on the rear by 10mm and it could have more of arrowhead shaped nose increasing wing area (and possibly thickness)

The lowend freeride is fun option to have

[Peter_Frank]

My 633/749/483 arrives tomorrow. Will post pics.

As of the Lift 170 (and I saw a note of Lift 200 already), I would not want to drag two incompatible type of masts.
I have a long 42” (106cm) and a short 71cm (28”) masts and it’s a great combination to mount either fuselage, either of my wings and stabilizers.

True, sound like a perfect puritane mast setup with a really short and a sufficiently long one, for either marginal winds or waves/chop or upwind

PF

[grigorib]

My 633/749/483 arrives tomorrow. Will post pics.

As of the Lift 170 (and I saw a note of Lift 200 already), I would not want to drag two incompatible type of masts.
I have a long 42” (106cm) and a short 71cm (28”) masts and it’s a great combination to mount either fuselage, either of my wings and stabilizers.

True, sound like a perfect puritane mast setup with a really short and a sufficiently long one, for either marginal winds or waves/chop or upwind

PF

SPI/OBX shallows were a major driving factor for the 71cm but I hope it'll be fun lightwind setup with 633

[Pedro Marcos]

Would like someone to test the big wings against the race wing in extreme lightwind conditions, but probably one cannot use the same kite, my guess is a big race kite will overpower the big wings quite quickly.

[Frank Rosin]

Would like someone to test the big wings against the race wing in extreme lightwind conditions, but probably one cannot use the same kite, my guess is a big race kite will overpower the big wings quite quickly.

Will do for sure!
My expectations are similar to yours.

Cheers
Frank
www.famousfrank.com

[grigorib]

Would like someone to test the big wings against the race wing in extreme lightwind conditions, but probably one cannot use the same kite, my guess is a big race kite will overpower the big wings quite quickly.

I don't have a big race kite. My plan for 633 is to be able to ride with a 10m LEI kite on long lines in sub-10knots conditions.
Amount of apparent wind in a big race wing will get the race foil flying once board is moving but for the 633 you will need way less speed to start foiling and neither you'd need any apparent wind besides enough to prevent the kite from falling out from the sky.

I could get “small” 590 stalling at lower speeds and I used to ride even slower with a larger (MHL 2013) wing. But 590 is pretty much same size as Hoverglide <corrected> H5 so about the same lowend is expected.
633 is a lowend toy, not a race gear which is pretty cool separation.

[Pedro Marcos]

Would like someone to test the big wings against the race wing in extreme lightwind conditions, but probably one cannot use the same kite, my guess is a big race kite will overpower the big wings quite quickly.

I don't have a big race kite. My plan for 633 is to be able to ride with a 10m LEI kite on long lines in sub-10knots conditions.
Amount of apparent wind in a big race wing will get the race foil flying once board is moving but for the 633 you will need way less speed to start foiling and neither you'd need any apparent wind besides enough to prevent the kite from falling out from the sky.

I could get “small” 590 stalling at lower speeds and I used to ride even slower with a larger (MHL 2013) wing. But 590 is pretty much same size as Hoverglide H2 so about the same lowend is expected.
633 is a lowend toy, not a race gear which is pretty cool separation.

You will be limited by the "wind needed to put you on top of the board", which on a 10m LEI Kite wont be low, my guess its minimum 7-8 knots. Once on top of the board maybe you can go in less wind, but not for waterstart.

[grigorib]

Here you go boys
633/749/483
548/325
590/328(330)
545(558)/328(330)

633 has a thick profile and similar “winglet bend” to 590. It’ll be a blast to ride that baby

[Peter_Frank]

What is the surface area of these four wings ?

PF