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keskopesko
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby keskopesko » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:00 am

It is very interesting what will happened when you will add shim to Onda?
If you have rail on board should you use it any way to improve some characteristics?

Will be faster wing? Will you loose light wind ability?

I like Onda ver much - best foil ever ;)
Easy, stable, super light wind, not so slow. I can go close to 50 km/h - downwind.

Happy that you share experience ;)

Aleš

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby WH Lithuania » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:19 am

Enough of speeeeeeeed for freeriding ;)

https://vimeo.com/277182664

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:39 pm

I have a question. Does anyone knows for sure the name of designer of 590/633 wings? I heard a rumor it was a big shot guy in US...

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby BWD » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:21 pm

The 633 resembles Ketos wave wings in many parameters. There is a little griping about this if you dig through the French foil forum.
Have not heard of any formal accusations of stealing though, whoever the designer might be.
Design elements of wing shapes, like boat hull shapes or surfboard shapes, are not patentable anyway, as far as I know.

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby gmb13 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:22 pm

BWD wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:21 pm
The 633 resembles Ketos wave wings in many parameters. There is a little griping about this if you dig through the French foil forum.
Have not heard of any formal accusations of stealing though, whoever the designer might be.
Design elements of wing shapes, like boat hull shapes or surfboard shapes, are not patentable anyway, as far as I know.
Not even close. The wings have different profiles, outlines and curves.

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I have riden both foils and they are as different as night an day.

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:31 pm

The story I heard was that 590/633 were not designed by Moses themselves but by another major brand working with them. No stealing but interesting cooperation

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby airsurfer » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:19 pm

has anyone tried the 633 or 683 with S420 stab?

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby oregonkiter » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:31 am

Hint: Look at the design of the Slingshot H4

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Frank Rosin » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:05 pm

Nem0 wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:41 am
What about scoop and rocker of the T38LTD ?
Just received some more, they will only stay for the night though.
It has a good 8cm of scoop when tail pressed down, or in other words, the foil plate taken as 0.

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:43 pm

So, any bets on what Slingshot is releasing tonight?

590, 633, 2018 fuselage. What else?


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