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grigorib
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:39 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 pm
What is the surface area of these four wings ?

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633 is 185 sq.in measured on 50mm mesh (182 on 100mm mesh)
So no more than 187

Larger than Lift 170
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:59 pm

So around 1200 cm2, thanks.

And what about the three "normal" wings ?

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:10 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:59 pm
So around 1200 cm2, thanks.

And what about the three "normal" wings ?

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I didn’t bother to measure those yet. 590 is ideal as far as I consider

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:46 pm

Besides area, how 548/590 are thicker wings, the 633 beats that at over (correction) 25mm profile thickness
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:57 pm

grigorib wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:46 pm
Besides area, how 548/590 are thicker wings, the 633 beats that at over 20mm profile thickness

I know that yes, but area and profile/thickness almost solely determines lift, so important for us not having one, to know, if interested in one :)

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:02 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:57 pm
grigorib wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:46 pm
Besides area, how 548/590 are thicker wings, the 633 beats that at over 20mm profile thickness

I know that yes, but area and profile determines most, so important for us not having one, to know, if interested in one :)

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I compared and 590 is same area as Hoverglide H5 if any data are available on that one.
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Pedro Marcos » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:30 pm

Peter_Frank wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 pm
What is the surface area of these four wings ?

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Moses does not provide that info, someone can measure? :)

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby grigorib » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:52 pm

Pedro Marcos wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:30 pm
Peter_Frank wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:01 pm
What is the surface area of these four wings ?

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Moses does not provide that info, someone can measure? :)
590 is about 660 cm2 or 102 sq.in
548 and 550 are smaller (550 is also thinner)
545 (558) is narrower and thinner compared to 548/590

590 is stable and fast and can go slow. Forget about 548/550. Maybe ride 558 as a pre-race fast wing.

But 590 is just golden
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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Peter_Frank » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:33 am

Thanks grigorib, also to keep it summed up same place :D

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Re: Moses 2018

Postby Pedro Marcos » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:52 am

Nice one :)
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