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Postby Toby » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:32 pm
Naish has a whole line up of Hydrofoil products for 2018. With a number of options to choose from most of which are compatible.
In this episode, Tucker show you how to put your foil set together regardless which one you choose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_0L0Dbm7ao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_0L0Dbm7ao
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Postby tautologies » Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:56 pm
Nice vid for sure. I love it when shops / people do this kind of thing.
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Postby TomW » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:24 pm
Frankly , the assembly and set up looks poor.
1. You can see him slipping and deforming the Phillips head screws. They should be Torx.
2. There's loose nuts on the stabilizer, and it's easy to lose those parts.
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Postby tautologies » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:06 am
TomW wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:24 pm
Frankly , the assembly and set up looks poor.
1. You can see him slipping and deforming the Phillips head screws. They should be Torx.
2. There's loose nuts on the stabilizer, and it's easy to lose those parts.
I'm going to take a wild stab here and guess they didn't want people to have to get new tools in addition to the wings. They also clearly state to that you do not have to tighten it up too hard. What would be the benefit on using Torx then?
Also imagine forgetting your Torx driver. Forget it, most people do not carry that in their car.
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Postby cglazier » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:49 am
The large Phillips head screws are widely used with hydrofoils and they work fine as long as you use a regular #3 Philllips screwdriver.
I am impressed with the stabilizer adjustment system.. it looks easier than having to replace shims.
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Postby TomW » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:28 pm
Granted, it's not that big deal to replace the screws if a head gets deformed. Be nice if foil companies provided and extra nut and screw.
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Postby tautologies » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:12 pm
TomW wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:28 pm
Granted, it's not that big deal to replace the screws if a head gets deformed. Be nice if foil companies provided and extra nut and screw.
Yes!
And standardized some of non-performance-critical components.
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Postby 3InletsWindsports » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:11 am
Nothing as short lived as a stainless Phillips head screw.
Allen heads have been around for long enough to be noticed even in Hawaii.
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Postby neptune262 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:31 am
The 2017 Naish foil (Liquid force wings) used Allen key heads for foil and mast connections and some nuts with nylon washers on Allen key heads for base plate mounting - all tools were provided with the foil set and even one spare screw and nut for the base plate mounting.
Sounds like a shame they changed the attachment method. I am also not a fan of using Philips head for when screws need to be held with a load.
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Postby airsail » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:36 am
I have one of these myself, happy with the Philips heads as Naish use a neat system of putting the components together, this means there is very little load on the screws that you don't need to tighten them much at all. And the screws are all M6 and readily available in most hardware shops.
The special nuts on the rear stab screws are easily removable for cleaning, otherwise corrosion is a problem between stainless and alloy. Yes, they could have just threaded the alloy fuselage but if you strip the thread you would have to replace the fuselage.
Spare parts are relatively cheap, except for the wings, bought a 70cm mast, cost less than half of the cost of the North Speedster shorter mast.
Overall I am very happy with this foil as my first one, the easy adjustable rear stab made learning easy.
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