Pryde CR X

[bigwave]

Tried it once and as everyone has already stated it is heavy and slow. The board is not suitable for use on the foil as it is way too soft. It is just as unpredictable as the first generation race foil I had but was impossible to get beyond 20 knots of speed. The TT is probably ok, but it is big and heavy like the F-One entry level trainer boards.

Would rather get an LF foil or pretty much any other entry level kit.

CR:X kites look ok, but are horribly overpriced just like the foil kit.

First off, lets compare apples to apples. The CR:X board is totally suitable for Foil. For one, it was designed by a professional "With over 15 years of board building experience and multiple world cup winning board designs, DK adds another feather to his cap with the creation of the world's first Kiteracing One-design Class."
The weight of the foil (by our in shop scale in pounds/ounces) is 10.8. Slingshot NF2 11.15 Airush CoreV2 8.3 Nobile Infinity 6.15 Shinn F Wing 7.10.
It has the longest mast of that group. If you have ever ridden a Slingshot you would realize the weight has very little effect for free ride foiling.
The weight of the board is comparable with other similarly priced products. All around the 9-10lbs range , Nobile Infinity and the Slingshot Converter. Both dual purpose board that can be ridden without the foil.
Speed. With the advent of large ,early foiling wings ,the speed component has diminished but fun factor has gone way up. Now,while the CR:X is not in that low speed category , it will keep the entry level foiler entertained(low speed/high speed) until he /she ponies up for the serious dollar carbon models (AKA the Oranges).
Price, there is no cheaper option currently available than the CR:X. Entry level kiters have a hard time justifying spending around Two Grand for something they can't do and not sure they will like(most everyone of course is stocked when they learn). We have a short mast package available as well to speed up the learning curve.
As for the overpriced kite comment , stay tuned .The CRX kites 13,10 and 7m are arriving mid April with unbeatable pricing!

[Horst Sergio]

Tried it once and as everyone has already stated it is heavy and slow. The board is not suitable for use on the foil as it is way too soft. It is just as unpredictable as the first generation race foil I had but was impossible to get beyond 20 knots of speed. The TT is probably ok, but it is big and heavy like the F-One entry level trainer boards.

Would rather get an LF foil or pretty much any other entry level kit.
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Thanks for your experience, didn't expect anything else.
I think most, also new foil builders accepted the experience I also made myself with a DIY, that flexibilty of twintip and stiffnes of foil didn't match, think that's why there is no similar product around.
On the other hand travelling and dual use aspect would be nice, but builders would have to respect the need to add an additional part to stiff the board during foil use, as marc shinn did for some of his wave - foil boards, maybe even not a perfect solution but on the way towards it.

But no problem if they build a one design, maybe olympic, class out of this one. Corrupt Olympic Games with doped riders on junky foils would fit great. ...

But not my sport, sorry.

[FrederikS]

Tried it once and as everyone has already stated it is heavy and slow. The board is not suitable for use on the foil as it is way too soft. It is just as unpredictable as the first generation race foil I had but was impossible to get beyond 20 knots of speed. The TT is probably ok, but it is big and heavy like the F-One entry level trainer boards.

Would rather get an LF foil or pretty much any other entry level kit.

CR:X kites look ok, but are horribly overpriced just like the foil kit.

First off, lets compare apples to apples. The CR:X board is totally suitable for Foil. For one, it was designed by a professional "With over 15 years of board building experience and multiple world cup winning board designs, DK adds another feather to his cap with the creation of the world's first Kiteracing One-design Class."
The weight of the foil (by our in shop scale in pounds/ounces) is 10.8. Slingshot NF2 11.15 Airush CoreV2 8.3 Nobile Infinity 6.15 Shinn F Wing 7.10.
It has the longest mast of that group. If you have ever ridden a Slingshot you would realize the weight has very little effect for free ride foiling.
The weight of the board is comparable with other similarly priced products. All around the 9-10lbs range , Nobile Infinity and the Slingshot Converter. Both dual purpose board that can be ridden without the foil.
Speed. With the advent of large ,early foiling wings ,the speed component has diminished but fun factor has gone way up. Now,while the CR:X is not in that low speed category , it will keep the entry level foiler entertained(low speed/high speed) until he /she ponies up for the serious dollar carbon models (AKA the Oranges).
Price, there is no cheaper option currently available than the CR:X. Entry level kiters have a hard time justifying spending around Two Grand for something they can't do and not sure they will like(most everyone of course is stocked when they learn). We have a short mast package available as well to speed up the learning curve.
As for the overpriced kite comment , stay tuned .The CRX kites 13,10 and 7m are arriving mid April with unbeatable pricing!

Comparing apples to apples is exactly what I am doing. Freeride foils to freeride foils as the CR:X is by no means a race machine.

There are at least four other commercially available aluminum foils with G10 or carbon wings in the same price category, all providing better performance while being easier to ride. Have not tried the slingshot but the Moses foils ride well and are well behaved both at low and reasonably high speeds, unlike the CR:X. Zeeko, LF, Manta, all make quality foils with a range of wings for different purposes priced right.

The board is as noted by the experienced foilers on this forum and the ones at the test last year in Denmark, not suitable in any way for foil racing. It has no volume, it has too much flex and weighs 1-1.5 kg more than boards of its size that are several times the volume. People will learn a lot quicker on a normal board with more stable foil.

The weight of the foil is of course comparable to that of any freeride aluminum foil with around 1 m mast and 60 cm fuselage. That the board doubles as a TT might be considered a benefit by someone who wants to bring only one board for a holiday and want to do both.

The CR:X kites are ok, but for the price you would be insane to choose it over the Ozone Edge 2017- V8 - V9. Handling and performance of the Edge is better and you are a getting a proven design.

If you want to have fun and learn foil do yourself a favor and buy a decent freeride foil with a board that has some volume. If you want to race buy a used race foil + board combination that is setup correctly. On the up side you can get some seriously good, even by 2018 standards, race foils and boards for less than a CR:X setup.

[dirtybeach]

Tried it once and as everyone has already stated it is heavy and slow. The board is not suitable for use on the foil as it is way too soft. It is just as unpredictable as the first generation race foil I had but was impossible to get beyond 20 knots of speed. The TT is probably ok, but it is big and heavy like the F-One entry level trainer boards.

Would rather get an LF foil or pretty much any other entry level kit.

CR:X kites look ok, but are horribly overpriced just like the foil kit.

First off, lets compare apples to apples. The CR:X board is totally suitable for Foil. For one, it was designed by a professional "With over 15 years of board building experience and multiple world cup winning board designs, DK adds another feather to his cap with the creation of the world's first Kiteracing One-design Class."
The weight of the foil (by our in shop scale in pounds/ounces) is 10.8. Slingshot NF2 11.15 Airush CoreV2 8.3 Nobile Infinity 6.15 Shinn F Wing 7.10.
It has the longest mast of that group. If you have ever ridden a Slingshot you would realize the weight has very little effect for free ride foiling.
The weight of the board is comparable with other similarly priced products. All around the 9-10lbs range , Nobile Infinity and the Slingshot Converter. Both dual purpose board that can be ridden without the foil.
Speed. With the advent of large ,early foiling wings ,the speed component has diminished but fun factor has gone way up. Now,while the CR:X is not in that low speed category , it will keep the entry level foiler entertained(low speed/high speed) until he /she ponies up for the serious dollar carbon models (AKA the Oranges).
Price, there is no cheaper option currently available than the CR:X. Entry level kiters have a hard time justifying spending around Two Grand for something they can't do and not sure they will like(most everyone of course is stocked when they learn). We have a short mast package available as well to speed up the learning curve.
As for the overpriced kite comment , stay tuned .The CRX kites 13,10 and 7m are arriving mid April with unbeatable pricing!

Comparing apples to apples is exactly what I am doing. Freeride foils to freeride foils as the CR:X is by no means a race machine.

There are at least four other commercially available aluminum foils with G10 or carbon wings in the same price category, all providing better performance while being easier to ride. Have not tried the slingshot but the Moses foils ride well and are well behaved both at low and reasonably high speeds, unlike the CR:X. Zeeko, LF, Manta, all make quality foils with a range of wings for different purposes priced right.

The board is as noted by the experienced foilers on this forum and the ones at the test last year in Denmark, not suitable in any way for foil racing. It has no volume, it has too much flex and weighs 1-1.5 kg more than boards of its size that are several times the volume. People will learn a lot quicker on a normal board with more stable foil.

The weight of the foil is of course comparable to that of any freeride aluminum foil with around 1 m mast and 60 cm fuselage. That the board doubles as a TT might be considered a benefit by someone who wants to bring only one board for a holiday and want to do both.

The CR:X kites are ok, but for the price you would be insane to choose it over the Ozone Edge 2017- V8 - V9. Handling and performance of the Edge is better and you are a getting a proven design.

If you want to have fun and learn foil do yourself a favor and buy a decent freeride foil with a board that has some volume. If you want to race buy a used race foil + board combination that is setup correctly. On the up side you can get some seriously good, even by 2018 standards, race foils and boards for less than a CR:X setup.

I believe you are missing one important fact.

The crx foil is on sale right now for $799 cdn, or $623 us complete, brand new. This is a lot less than any of the other offerings available right now.

[FrederikS]

That is probably what it is worth if it is with the board. Here the price is 1000 EUR or double what it is in Canada at the moment excluding board.

[davesails7]

until he /she ponies up for the serious dollar carbon models (AKA the Oranges).

If you buy the new stuff it is pricey. However, the good thing about the fast development in race gear is you can buy last years gear for cheap. It took me months to sell my spotz2 with top of the line carbon board (only 1 year old). I let it go for only $900 (Less than I paid for the board alone!)

Used race kites are cheap too. First generation Sonics, diablos , and chronos are going for around $800.

I had heard NP was selling the CRX stuff off really cheap. If $623 includes the board, thats a good deal! I think these low prices are due to the fact that no one has been buying them and they are giving up on CRX...