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Foil
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Gear: Moses T38 full carbon Ltd edition. number 3 and number 56.
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Re: Moses T38 vs T22

Postby Foil » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:38 am

I bet your #68 board is similar to my #56 in appearance and weight,
My #3 board weighs a silly light 2.26 kg,no straps, and quite thin rails away from the rear,
My #. 56 board weighs in without straps at 2.65 kg, and has much thicker rails,
My go to board at the moment is my thinner board as it feels "easier" to body drag out in challenging sea conditions with onshore big wind and waves,
Both feel the same on the water. Both make me smile when sitting on the beach ready to get wet😎
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Jimmy Mazzanti
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Re: Moses T38 vs T22

Postby Jimmy Mazzanti » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:27 pm

francis luengo wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:39 pm
Tom Tom wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:02 am
Thanks for excellent input. Taking into consideration I am just getting started and still have to master flying gibes, I believe the T38/633 will be a good complement to the T40/550 that I ride today.

Only thing I am pondering at the moment is rocker of the T38. Heard tons of good stuff (specifically concerning rocker) about the Groove Skateboard. The T38 (actually custom by Newind) is a veriy different animal, that also seems to work really well :-/

So now just to decide T38 or Skate?....
Skate is the perfect board for 633 ...sure.
Yes and the T38 is the perfect board for ? :thumb:

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Re: Moses T38 vs T22

Postby francis luengo » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:26 pm

Jimmy Mazzanti wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:27 pm
francis luengo wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:39 pm
Tom Tom wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:02 am
Thanks for excellent input. Taking into consideration I am just getting started and still have to master flying gibes, I believe the T38/633 will be a good complement to the T40/550 that I ride today.

Only thing I am pondering at the moment is rocker of the T38. Heard tons of good stuff (specifically concerning rocker) about the Groove Skateboard. The T38 (actually custom by Newind) is a veriy different animal, that also seems to work really well :-/

So now just to decide T38 or Skate?....
Skate is the perfect board for 633 ...sure.
Yes and the T38 is the perfect board for ? :thumb:
Freeride and fun with the 590 wing . :wink:
I prefer skate for carving and little waves with onda.
I would like to try the T22 with onda.
I have both wings and try them in 130 cm board and 120 cm board and prefer small boards for onda.

:thumb:

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Re: Moses T38 vs T22

Postby Tom Tom » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:36 am

Foil wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:38 am
I bet your #68 board is similar to my #56 in appearance and weight,
My #3 board weighs a silly light 2.26 kg,no straps, and quite thin rails away from the rear,
My #. 56 board weighs in without straps at 2.65 kg, and has much thicker rails,
My go to board at the moment is my thinner board as it feels "easier" to body drag out in challenging sea conditions with onshore big wind and waves,
Both feel the same on the water. Both make me smile when sitting on the beach ready to get wet😎
Yes, confirmed. Thicker rails and about 2,5kg.

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Re: Moses T38 vs T22

Postby Tom Tom » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:40 am

francis luengo wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:26 pm
Jimmy Mazzanti wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:27 pm
francis luengo wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:39 pm

Skate is the perfect board for 633 ...sure.
Yes and the T38 is the perfect board for ? :thumb:
Freeride and fun with the 590 wing . :wink:
I prefer skate for carving and little waves with onda.
I would like to try the T22 with onda.
I have both wings and try them in 130 cm board and 120 cm board and prefer small boards for onda.

:thumb:
Well, went with the T38 on the basis of still learning really and need to touch down more than never. Thinking that the trend will be even shorter boards so I will likely add a 85-95 ultra-pocket when I am more confident. Plus it is gorgeous. Plus I have a Moses dealer nearby. Plus, when looking at the feedback on the Skate and communicating with Groove on a possible order perhaps Moses feels like a more sure-bet if there are issues or problems with it. Having said that, the new Carbon Skate looks really really nice.


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