Mossy 757 wrote:Rakky wrote:End goal is to try a few races
If this is your goal ^
foilholio wrote:Buy a Pansh A15.
Definitely DO NOT do this ^
His goal first is to learn foil kites. The A15 is an easy kite to fly and not bad performance. It is also cheap so if he doesn't like foils then no big loss. I think he will like it though.
Mossy 757 wrote:I'm not sure why Foilholio tries to sell a Pansh kite to every newbie that posts on this forum
Because it is a good kite, I speak from much more experience with foils than most on this forum. If I was giving advice on what the best inflatable was I would be skeptical
Mossy 757 wrote: maybe their sponsored affiliate program is really lucrative or something
not in the slightest, I get nothing from pansh, and if that was the case why would I write a PM back to you the way I did when you asked about Pansh ?
Mossy 757 wrote: but it would be a really bad idea to buy that kite if you're going to try to get into racing in the SF bay area
I believe quite a few are owned in that area and by people that post here.
Mossy 757 wrote: 100% wasted money
really... Mossy you have never owned one have you? You sound like you are basing you opinion solely on the likes of windrider. That guy had trouble with a new speed5 and claims he is an expert with kites.
Mossy 757 wrote:and nobody there will own one so they couldn't possibly help you set it up or fix it if (when) it gets out of tune or comes from the factory messed up (as they reportedly often do).
Nearly all of my panshs A15, Aurora, Adam came fine from the factory. The Genesis was quirky and disappointing but still flew, anyway it is fixed now. There is a slight risk but you can ask for help here or send it back and claim paypal. Most times a simple adjustment of B or Z will solve any problems.
Mossy 757 wrote:I was really nervous the first time I launched my friend's 9m Flysurfer Sonic FR, but went out and had a great session without any problems, I even managed a reverse water-relaunch when I screwed up a gybe.
The sonic is quite a difficult kite compared to the A15. It is the most easy of the race foils but still not an easy kite.
Mossy 757 wrote:If you're looking for your first foil, I'd recommend a larger size like a 13m or 15m as they're more stable and a little bit easier to fly.
Good advice
Mossy 757 wrote:Any of the modern race kites are easy enough to learn on
I think he will progress much faster on a non race kite. I see hydrofoilers still mix up with freeride kites to learn.
Mossy 757 wrote:Take a look at the classified sections of iKitesurf.com, bayareakiteboarding.com, or on this board. There's nothing wrong with a used kite, just be prepared for it to need a bit of a tune up in order to get back to original condition. The members of this forum can help you with that, and most manufacturers publish the schematics for their kites and/or provide good customer support (cannot say the same for Pansh).
Buying second hand is a good option, with so many racers changing so often they won't get very much money back at all. Schematics are overrated but nice none the less, so is brand support. I don't think many companies give support for second hand products.