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Macster
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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Macster » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:59 am

TomW wrote:
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:47 pm
Macster,

How's the bar feel, depower throw, depower feeling compared to your Hyperlink?
Hi Tom - I have the 9m Hyperlink and this was a 12m Soul so probably not the best comparison. Bar pressure was stronger on the Soul but not excessive like an old school cabrinha switchblade or ozone c4.

The Hyperlink is more susceptible to the canaopy bending if you sheet out too quickly whereas the Soul kept its rigidity better and behaved a bit more like an inflatable kite.

It semed like the Hyperlink depowers more when fully extending the bar but again hard to tell when comparing a 9m to 12m.

Hyperlink sits a little deeper in the wind window and you never feel like its going to over fly when at 12pm whereas the Soul sat slightly further forward and I had to put a bit of depower on when standing on the beach.

I didnt need to use the trim strap much once underway so I cant comment too much yet on it's depower ability other than that the bar throw offered ample control in 10-18 knots.

Will be kiting solid over the next 3 days so I'll write more soon. I also bought a 8m soul which will offer a better comparison to my 9m hyperlink. Cheers

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby andylc » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:07 am

I am waiting on my 8m Soul - can’t wait to try boosting it in 25 knots!

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby airsail » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:58 am

Just picked up my 12 mtr Soul, no FDS connections? I’m used to using FDS during self landing in stronger winds, FLS has always been a bit of a pain to use in upper wind ranges.
How does the FLS perform on the Soul during self landing? Should I fit a FDS system, my bar is already set up for FDS.

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby foilholio » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:59 pm

You could attach FDS to bridles near center.

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby fogmeister » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:37 pm

Anyone switched from the Sonic 2 and regretted it?




I had sonic 2 15m, 13m,11m

now soul 18 15 12 10


no regrets, i bought a 6 m first, then was so impressed and bought a 10.......then thought i should try the 12........hey then maybe 15.........and why not the 18.........

i returned the 6 , as i use the kites for boosting the 12 is great from 15 into low 20 kts, the 10 will cover 20-30kts.......which is the most we ever get unless its some kind of crappy storm wind.

the kite for hydrofoil freeriding does everything better than the sonic2, and no more swims. I literally relaunched the 18 in deepwater in what felt like 5 kts......i have never seen a foil kite come up in such light wind

the stability of the kite is a marvel!

in the boosting department it equals a sonic2........but you can hold down much more power......while jacked out of my mind in 18kts on 11msonic2 edging hard upwind on hydrofoil, the 12 m soul is comfortable easily able to take over 20 kts and not depowered yet.


the kite is being undermarketed , probably for good reason, as it would scavenge all other sales.

the the range of the kite is huge

all in all from here on forward , unless your racing.........soul


cheers

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby kiter4fun123 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:07 pm

Hi,

How would rate the low end grunt of the 12m soul.
Comparable to the sonic2 13 or more like sonic2 11m / speed5 12m?

(Projected area of the 12m soul is 9.75m2 / AR 5.55
sonic2 13m 10.8m2 / AR 7.25!
speed5 12m only! 9.5m2 / AR 6.15

my old speed4 12m 10.2m2 / AR 5.8,
that is getting old and soon needs retirement...)

cheers :)

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby andylc » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:37 pm

This is not a perfect comparison as I used Ozone up until the Soul. However my experience is that the low end power of the Soul is slightly better than the low end of a 13m Chrono V2, so definitely comparable to a 13 rather than 11 I’d say. Also being a faster turning kite I find I can work it a bit more in very light winds.

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Adventure Logs » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:24 am

kiter4fun123 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:07 pm
Hi,

How would rate the low end grunt of the 12m soul.
Comparable to the sonic2 13 or more like sonic2 11m / speed5 12m?

(Projected area of the 12m soul is 9.75m2 / AR 5.55
sonic2 13m 10.8m2 / AR 7.25!
speed5 12m only! 9.5m2 / AR 6.15

my old speed4 12m 10.2m2 / AR 5.8,
that is getting old and soon needs retirement...)

cheers :)
Due to the ability to actively fly the soul a little faster than the Sonic, they are very similar. The Soul is also a little lighter than the Soul which also helps.

Soul is easier to relaunch, is more stable especially in high winds, and just is a more dynamic kite. I’ve been flying foil kites for about a decade now and the Soul is by far my favorite kite line.

Here’s a vid I did mostly showing the build and design differences between the Soul and Sonic. Since then I’ve decided that the only real advantage the Sonic2 has over the Soul is the upwind angle.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=USxk6qFIJKc

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby kiter4fun123 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:52 pm

Sounds greajt. Djibouti, I had to look it up via google maps :D
Do you have good winds down there, thermals all year round?

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Re: Flysurfer Soul

Postby Adventure Logs » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:32 am

kiter4fun123 wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:52 pm
Sounds greajt. Djibouti, I had to look it up via google maps :D
Do you have good winds down there, thermals all year round?
I was there for work, during the summer you have good thermals but for the most part the wind is pretty light there. Enough to hydrofoil everyday though.


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