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How important is a trim strap / cleat?

Postby noahsw » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:43 pm

I’m just getting into the foil kite game and I’ve been enjoying them with my Cloud CCS bar which has no trim strap. It does have a long 27” throw. I love it’s simplicity and light weight.

Since foil kites are a different beast, how important is a trim strap / cleat?

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Re: How important is a trim strap / cleat?

Postby surfbird » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:05 pm

I'm a cloud rider. Just bought a R1V2, I would say you need a trim strap, it's nothing like a cloud.

It might be doable, but you will struggle so much more.

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Re: How important is a trim strap / cleat?

Postby andylc » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:20 pm

Depends on whether you want to use the full wind range but I'd say at the upper ends trimming it in a bit makes a big difference - I was out today on a Soul 12m in 15-18 knots and trimming about 30% in made it perfect. Would have been doable without trimming in but not comfortable.

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Re: How important is a trim strap / cleat?

Postby jakemoore » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:55 pm

So for free ride you probably don't need to adjust the trimmer much. Once you find a trim you are happy with, I think BRM style should be fine.

If racing, or if pushing the limits of wind range then a trimmer probably makes a bigger difference.

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Re: How important is a trim strap / cleat?

Postby edt » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:59 am

I never use trim jumping unhooked or kiteloops but I use it all the time when foiling. when you are a board twintip or surfboard you just edge hard with the extra power can't do that on a foil. if you tried to put that much power on your foil the wing tends to ventilate as you push more sideways.

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Re: How important is a trim strap / cleat?

Postby TomW » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:17 pm

I used my Hyperlink 9m UL 30 sessions with trim strap, then set up a minimalist bar without trim and swivel. Used it about 8 sessions now. If wind is at high end I rig rear lines on 50mm longer knots, otherwise keep standard knots. I don't miss it, I thought I would!
My arms are pretty short too. I'm not racing, just freeride around.


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