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Flying Wing Commentary

Postby lightandfrost » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:59 pm

Removing a hydrofoils stabilizer and riding the stock wing ie riding stabless increases the control requirements of the rider as the wing is unstable since nothing counters the wings center of pressure as it moves around the center of gravity. Furthermore there will be limits to the wings ability to function.

The design of flying wings is well researched. For home builders who wish to pursue the development of flying wing specific hydrofoils - here are some simple design suggestions.

1. The stabilizer and tail are replaced by a reflex which is a rectangular area on the trailing edge of the wing angled upward acting as the stabilizer

2. The wing should have some dyhedral which will help counter yaw-pitch-roll inherent in flying wings.

3. The wing should have two fences on each wing, and on both sides of the wing. These fences forward point should start behind the center of gravity

4. Small winglits on the wing tip should be installed to increase the Center of pressure area of the wing.

5. The wing shape could be designed symmetrical ie cambered both top and bottom. This would reduce center of pressure movement, increase the stability, but reduce lift.

There are plenty of pictures of flying wings. A primer for home builders can be found here.

The aerodynamics of flying wings part one and two

Light and frost has begun a flying wing project and will post for community use as the wings are developed and tested.

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Re: Flying Wing Commentary

Postby BWD » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:14 pm

When L & F wrote “symmetrical” did “they” mean in the aerodynamic sense or the geometric sense?
Are “winglits” sharp or , erm, “blunted”
Why fences? They’ve been unnecessary on conventional, stables, and canard configurations so far...

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Re: Flying Wing Commentary

Postby TomW » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:18 pm

The reading I've done on wing design, I learned the literature uses the term " symmetrical wing" to mean the top and bottom surface has camber, but not necessarily the same or mirrored camber. So it's not really symmetrical, but it could be..
Asymmetric means one side is flat.

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Re: Flying Wing Commentary

Postby jakemoore » Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:39 pm

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I wonder why we don’t have more winglets, fences and dihedral on the flying wings so familiar to us already?

Closed cell foil kites definitely benefit from reflex. Open cell fixed bridle, less so. What about LEI?

Parallel for hydrofoil is user impulse can address pitch roll yaw, preventing front and back stall.

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