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Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby Mad_dan » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:09 am

I have gotten tendinosis in both my underarms from one day of extended kitesurfing in little wind, yanking on the bar all day. I'm on my fourth month now, doesent seem to get better, have tried most of available therapy, I know this might take time. But I'm really afraid that I will not be able to kitesurf in the future, anyone out there with experience with long term tendinosis, how long time did it take? Did you have to give up kitesurfing? Any advice to make kiting less stressful on the underarms?

Grateful for all feedback, I'm in a real bad place right know :-(

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Re: Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby Massimo » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:02 pm

Mad_dan wrote:I have gotten tendinosis in both my underarms from one day of extended kitesurfing in little wind, yanking on the bar all day. I'm on my fourth month now, doesent seem to get better, have tried most of available therapy, I know this might take time. But I'm really afraid that I will not be able to kitesurf in the future, anyone out there with experience with long term tendinosis, how long time did it take? Did you have to give up kitesurfing? Any advice to make kiting less stressful on the underarms?

Grateful for all feedback, I'm in a real bad place right know :-(
Got it and solved it.

How? Gym (weight lifting) + stretching

Pain is gone even for long sessions

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Re: Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby Mitaka » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:05 pm

Do not panic. You will be kiting again soon. :D

From my own experience I would recommend rest + stretching and yoga.

Very often the pain in the arms is associated with neck problems and I find this set of exercises extremely useful after kiting - Neck & shoulder pain relief from YogaYak in youtube.

I had very bad tendinosis first in the left arm (from SUP wave surfing) and next year in the right arm from kiting (2 days extensive kiting with 12m in low wind and decent waves). Both completely gone. Stretching and yoga has always allowed me to return in a few days to my favourite sports but complete healing needs months, depending on your age and physical shape.

Improving your kiting technique will greatly reduce the stress on your arms.

Good Luck!

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Re: Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby Mad_dan » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:51 pm

Massimo wrote:
Mad_dan wrote:I have gotten tendinosis in both my underarms from one day of extended kitesurfing in little wind, yanking on the bar all day. I'm on my fourth month now, doesent seem to get better, have tried most of available therapy, I know this might take time. But I'm really afraid that I will not be able to kitesurf in the future, anyone out there with experience with long term tendinosis, how long time did it take? Did you have to give up kitesurfing? Any advice to make kiting less stressful on the underarms?

Grateful for all feedback, I'm in a real bad place right know :-(
Got it and solved it.

How? Gym (weight lifting) + stretching

Pain is gone even for long sessions
Thanks for the thumbs up! What kind of program, exercises and progression did you follow?
I'm doing eccentric underarm/fist lifting with 2-3kg about 3 times a day. This is more or less pain free, I'm too worried to start with normal lifting. I have trained at gym regularly before this happened. But maybe I should consider more and heavier training?

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Re: Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby Mad_dan » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:57 pm

Mitaka wrote:Do not panic. You will be kiting again soon. :D

From my own experience I would recommend rest + stretching and yoga.

Very often the pain in the arms is associated with neck problems and I find this set of exercises extremely useful after kiting - Neck & shoulder pain relief from YogaYak in youtube.

I had very bad tendinosis first in the left arm (from SUP wave surfing) and next year in the right arm from kiting (2 days extensive kiting with 12m in low wind and decent waves). Both completely gone. Stretching and yoga has always allowed me to return in a few days to my favourite sports but complete healing needs months, depending on your age and physical shape.

Improving your kiting technique will greatly reduce the stress on your arms.

Good Luck!
Thanks a lot Mitaka, reading your post made my day ;-). haven't considered yoga yet, but maybe I should look in to it. I don't think I have any neck problems, never ever had tendon problems before, think I just got unlucky with too much stress for one session. Let that be a warning to you all, What I wouldn't do to turn back time.

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Re: Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby Mad_dan » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:01 pm

Went to a specialist Doctor today, and he sheared some new info about my condition. He said its not Tendinosis, but interception syndrome, he saw fluid around the tendon, so its a tenosynovitis.

The treatment is relative rest and alternative training. And he said eccentric training as I have done is not the right treatment. To bad I have been doing this multiple times per day for months now.

Anyone with some god tips to alternative training?

A little info about interception syndrome, gues Im not the first or last kiter to get this injury:

Intersection syndrome is a condition of tendon inflammation of the tendons over the back of the forearm and wrist. The pain of intersection syndrome is located about 4 cm above the back of the wrist joint where two major tendons that move (straighten) the fingers cross over each other. Intersection syndrome is a type of wrist tendonitis.
Symptoms of Intersection Syndrome

The symptoms of intersection syndrome are very predictable. Patients with this complaint almost always have the same symptoms. These symptoms typically develop a day or two after a repetitive activity, such as sports or gardening activity. I have often seen this condition develop in competitive rowers a day or two after a particularly difficult workout session. Typical signs of intersection synrome include:
Pain and tenderness of the wrist tendons
Swelling of the tendons
A grinding sensation (crepitus) with movement of the fingers
Treatment of Intersection Syndrome

Treatment of intersection syndrome is almost always easily accomplished with some simple steps. Foremost, the tendons require rest, and this means avoiding activity with the affected wrist for at least 3-5 days while the inflammation subsides. Not resting the condition will exacerbate symptoms and prolong symptoms. Athletes should ensure that the symptoms have resolved, as premature return to sports will be likely to make the problem recur. Treatments for intersection syndrome should include:
Rest: Most people benefit from the use of a wrist brace to fully rest the tendons for at least 5 days.
Ice: Ice can help to relieve the symptoms of inflammation.
Anti-Inflammatory Medications: A short course of an oral anti-inflammatory medication is also helpful to settle symptoms.
Once symptoms have improved, athletes should gradually return to activity to ensure the problem is completely resolved. Even if there is no pain while doing an activity, too early of a return may cause inflammation that is not apparent for several days.In some persistent situations, more aggressive treatment can be considered. Occasionally a cortisone injection is used to help with treatment. In some rare situation, surgery to clean up the inflammation may be considered. However, most patients will improve with 1-2 weeks of simple treatment.

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Re: Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby plummet » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:47 pm

Look for a kite with light bar pressure.

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Re: Tendinosis anyone with experience?

Postby Mad_dan » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:40 am

plummet wrote:Look for a kite with light bar pressure.
Any suggestions? I got Cabrinha kites 2014 & 2015, think they are about medium barpressure?!


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